http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=...&id=7433661

The video may be disturbing to some people so watch at your own discretion.

I was just about to post this....definitely fucked up!

saw that a few days ago. its crazy. cop was propbably some one who got made fun of in school and wanted to get back at everyone.

i think everyone should start carrying guns to counteract these power hungry cops we are starting to see more and more of

lol, because that won't escalate the issue!

how would the kid having a gun have helped him at all?

could have at least tried to shoot the cop after he shot him. then according to that video, it would have been self defense. he made no move towards a gun or any other weapon and was already pulled over by the time the cop got to him. there was no threat to the officer at all.

So i was thinking one thing and then i saw the other. Find I often find myself playing devils advocate on these police videos. Maybe because I have alot of law enforcement friends. But If you think of your self another 15-25 degrees left of that camera what do you think you see after you've just told him to put his hands up.

I think we had a thread about the guy who video taped the unmarked pulling his fire arm. The acceleration from the stop and the small but subsequent chase initiated the gun being drawn. You hear no mention of how long they were being followed. They knew he was there when they punched it at the stop sign. They make no mention if he had warrants or other arrests either.

The other guy jumped a big median at what looks like a rotary while another squad car chases him.. Then you make a verbal command on a biker and he doesn't comply, makes a move like he is removing a weapon from his belt area. ??

he yelled to put his hands up as he shot the guy. he gave him no time to comply

thats grotesque FUCKING PIGS!

I thought this is why we had tazers

that made me so sick to my stomach ..... what if that was me or nelson. he didnt do anything wrong for christ"s sake he is now paralyzed because he took off to fast and some cop had a happy trigger finger.


omg, literally sick to my stomach

that cop need to be shot and paralized so he can feel what that guy felt, and live that poor guys life

you guys should have seen her face!

I fucking hate cops even MORE now!!!!

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner. Here's a little background before you go in with pitchforks to the Ottawa Hills PD.

The city of Toledo completely surrounds Ottawa Hills, which is an extremely nice and pretty neighborhood/city. However it borders several sketchy areas. The cops over there are major dicks, but keep in mind they have to put up with the scum living in the adjacent Section 8 housing which is chock full of shitheads. Think of them as border guards trying to keep the assholes in line to preserve the nice community they serve.

The street they are on is a 25mph street through a dense neighborhood, and the bikers shouldn't have been gunning it through there. Since they essentially ran from the police (they certainly didn't stop right away, and the one guy lost control of his bike while trying to get away) I can't say I'm surprised the officers reacted with some alarm, but I do think the shooting is going waaaaay over the line. I think it's an unfortunate knee-jerk reaction to a percieved problem that wasn't there.

I feel awful for the shooting victim, but I can't fault the officer 100% because the rider was goofing off in a very bad area to be goofing off.

i re-read this thread and since it was bumped to the top i did a quick search. Most of the crime comes from burglaries and Arson. We have to remember we don't live there and don't know the tension or activity in and around this time. Just that this happened. No one is checking crime statistics in that article, no one seems to be in the field reporting the atmosphere to crime and gang activity.. so we don't know. There is no dash cam that goes back days or months to tell you if there is intel on suspects or people of interest in this neighborhood.

higher than average national crime rate
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/toledo/crime/

Article about a neo-nazi riot and increasing gang activity
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/kouri/051017

the guy that was shot never ran. when they took off at the stop sign, the cop never had his lights on. as soon as he did turn them on, he had pulled over and was waiting (unlike the other biker). it was completely out of line for the shooting and the cop should be crucified.

the biker gave the over the shoulder like he was Sasquatch, why people don't think it's a good idea to do what a police officer tells you immediately and with out hesitation is beyond me.

listen to the video again. if you listen to the cop as he yells the FIRST time, he shoots before he even finishes what hes saying.

I don't condone the officer's actions and it's a terrible judgement call on his part. Yes, he should be put through the ringer for it. All I'm saying is like it or not, the bikers were being stupid in a place where you don't want to be.

Cops are everywhere in Ottawa Hills and they're jumpy. I stayed out of there unless I was on my bicycle for that very reason.

Small world- the second officer involved (Chris Sargent, you see him in the other patrol car in the video) is a guy I drove busses with in college.

http://toledoblade.com/article/20100512/NE...338/0/OPINION02