Jayface
May 12 2010, 06:59 PM
Ok everyone, its time for us, as in the new england car community to come together as one and stand up for what we believe is right and what needs to be done.
My name is Kevin Marques. Alot of you know me, ive been envolved with the car scene for 7 years now. I also kno that theres alot of you out there just like me, whos parents showed you the ropes, and you one day want to show your kids the fun and excitement in racing and car building.
Today at 11pm channel 12 is doing a segment on how street racing is out of control and how bad it is. i agree, but what they dont do is show a way on how to fix it. Thats were us, as a team all need to contribute and show them what we need. A local track were we can go and do it legaly and help save lifes and also brings money and jobs to the state.
the plan:
tonight after the segment. we all call channel 12 and other local new stations and complain on how they didnt find a solution and that there bad mouthing us. them doing this makes the police deparment and other goverment sections not want to respect us. which will lead to us not having places to hang out, and also will be targeted and get tickets.
Numbers.
channel 12 wpri- 401-228-1763 station airing the bad mouthing
stations who would want a story on fixing the sistuation.
channel 10 wjar- 401-455-9105
end_of_the_skype_highlightingchannel 6 abc- online. couldnt find a number.
after this I will personal start a petion, i know a few state reps and if we come together and make a ligit one it could work, also the day i drop it off, ill call the news station and i think we should have a "group drop off" just so we can get air time and show that we care.
the reason this could work is the fact that now that channel 12 has aired this thousands watch the news. were going to have exposer and that will make the goverment want to try fixing it if were gettin it on the news that we want a track and there not doing anything to help it.
this will only work if we all work together. its on the same concept of finding a cure for cancer, your donation makes a diffrence, but everyones together is key and what makes the big picture.
so for once, be respectful, think of the future for you, your parents who still enjoy some racing, and your kids. and lets get a track in Rhode island. save some lifes, and get it off the streets.
reason for location, its in between conn, mass, ny.
any questions or comments, email me at mugenmanr@aol.com. state what forum your from. this is on alot.
this will be updated. with more info. and the petion shortly.
That was copied and pasted from another forum. I'm going to throw in a few statistics that support the cause. Most of you don't care or hate racing so this doesn't pertain to you. If you plan on flaming, frankly, don't post because this doesn't pertain to you and no one wants your input. We're going to put our maturity hats on and overlook this if you don't care if you think it's a stupid idea.
My name is Jay Pimentel. All of you know me, some hate me, others ACTUALLY know me and enjoy my company. Anyways, I completely support the movement to support the track here in lower New England. Statistics say that crime is almost deminished as far as street racing where local tracks are. Most of us don't have the time or money to go to the track up at Epping or what ever ever you guys favor. If you do have any questions or concerns, I will even give you my cell. Feel free to prank it, talk shit, whatever, but this is used for a good cause. 401-533-4834 and my e-mail is jayjaybreaksjaws@yahoo.com Support the cause, help keep the streets safe.
ccwrx
May 12 2010, 07:02 PM
great post!!!
i will sign your petition and wish you luck with this
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 07:05 PM
as much as i dont want to say it, i agree with Jay and have felt strongly about this for a long time. a year or two ago it was rumored that seekonk was doing a 1/4 mile drag strip. nothing came of it. as much as i dont agree with street racing itself, we have all been guilty of it at one point or another whether or not we want to admit it. this is a positive step forward and a legal way to show the government/police/etc. how passionately we feel about this. i for one support jay and anyone else moving forward with this.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (Jayface @ May 12 2010, 07:59 PM)

jayjaybreaksjaws@yahoo.com
fix it for you man
D. Snuts
May 12 2010, 07:15 PM
I would love to have a track in southern New England but I'm not sure what a petition will do for this. I'll sign the petiotion absolutly! But what will it do? I am sure the gubment won't build a track. Warren MA tried before about 15 years ago. No petition was needed. The reason it didn't happen was because of the large population what said they didn't want it in their back yard. If mugenman is really ready to dive into this I hope he has land and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$!!! The guy in Warren lost a lot of money getting permits and doing traffic and sound tests.
I support a track but I hope the person starting the ball rolling is well prepared for his and our sake!
bonnEVIL
May 12 2010, 07:36 PM
id love to sign, i hope he spell checks anything that is sent in if he wants to be taken seriously.
Mr.Srtee
May 12 2010, 07:55 PM
I had already planned to call.
PSquare75
May 12 2010, 07:56 PM
This seems like a good idea in theory. A track was supposed to be at Quonset years ago. Then at the old Fall River airport. Killed because of NIMBYism. I totally rolled my eyes when I saw the preview for this story last night.
BOTTLEDZ28
May 12 2010, 07:57 PM
This will never get anywhere. This same subject has been brought up for years and years. I have even signed petitions in the past and all have been shut down. They say they dont want a track because of the noise, because of the traffic and because of the cost. Another argument is the fact that there are two track within a few hours of us. You cant expect there to be a drag strip every 50 miles to please everyone in this country. Trust me, Id love to have one right here but its just not gonna happen. Im not trying to be negitive here but I have seen this same topic come up numerous times in the past.
They basically tell us to go to the track or suffer the punishments if you get caught on the street. Plain and simple.
Stangman_NB
May 12 2010, 07:59 PM
def a good cause...I'll sign and would love to have a local track to keep racing off the streets
PSquare75
May 12 2010, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (BOTTLEDZ28 @ May 12 2010, 08:57 PM)

This will never get anywhere. This same subject has been brought up for years and years. I have even signed petitions in the past and all have been shut down. They say they dont want a track because of the noise, because of the traffic and because of the cost. Another argument is the fact that there are two track within a few hours of us. You cant expect there to be a drag strip every 50 miles to please everyone in this country. Trust me, Id love to have one right here but its just not gonna happen. Im not trying to be negitive here but I have seen this same topic come up numerous times in the past.
They basically tell us to go to the track or suffer the punishments if you get caught on the street. Plain and simple.
What's gonna happen is people are gonna go "Well you have seekonk Speedway with spectator DRAGS.. "
PSquare75
May 12 2010, 08:49 PM
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 08:53 PM
ignorance
Stangman_NB
May 12 2010, 08:53 PM
Yes this is CJ still on Nelson's name, but after reading the comments on that news story, I think the cause could really be helped IF people used better grammar.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 08:56 PM
QUOTE (Stangman_NB @ May 12 2010, 09:53 PM)

Yes this is CJ still on Nelson's name, but after reading the comments on that news story, I think the cause could really be helped IF people used better grammar.
i love how they say they arent putting anybody in danger and that the cops "know" and "dont care". theyre in the CITY, not a rural area or a blocked off road. there are houses, i know the area/areas they go to. highly populated and kids/teenagers are out til 9,10,11,12+ at night. especially on fri and sat when they go do these races. rekless should have a meet at these areas and set up spike strips for when they go down the road. considering the racing laws that RI just passed, im sure the cops give a shit about what they are doing.
red1997cobra
May 12 2010, 09:03 PM
its on right now! fox news
this reporter cracks me up a "DIG"????
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 09:05 PM
hopefully my comment gets approved on the site
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 09:07 PM
oh the fox/channel 12 is very biased. the accident they are talking about was found not to be involved with street racing. the driver found to have alcohol in his system at the time of the crash and it was deemed a single car accident. retards
BOTTLEDZ28
May 12 2010, 09:11 PM
Kellz, the least thing we want to do as a club is show up at these spots. Just picture a few members wearing REKLESS RACING shirts advising these people to not street race because its rekless driving. That would be like wearing a shirt that says I LOVE CIGERETTES and then raising awarness for lung cancer
PSquare75
May 12 2010, 09:11 PM
One thing we all can agree with.. Erin Kennedy.. damn.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 09:14 PM
QUOTE (BOTTLEDZ28 @ May 12 2010, 10:11 PM)

Kellz, the least thing we want to do as a club is show up at these spots. Just picture a few members wearing REKLESS RACING shirts advising these people to not street race because its rekless driving. That would be like wearing a shirt that says I LOVE CIGERETTES and then raising awarness for lung cancer
i was more pissed off at the idiots that they video taped. there was a story about this over a year or two years ago where they had interviewed a bunch of people at the IHOP in providence. i was at the CVS complex the night the kid ran from the cops and ended up killing himself. since that night, i dont go to meets that i know will end in something like this. not my scene anymore. but its those types of people that ruin the automotive scene in general
Marc Letourneau
May 12 2010, 09:39 PM
I agree with Brad, The last thing we need is someone with a Rekless shirt on. Great idea as far as the petition goes!
JonT
May 12 2010, 09:41 PM
sorry to tell you, but im sure you already know if you been doing this that long. its already been done. 401Motion already did it. even made the news... that was YEARS ago, and nothing has happened. im not going to say street racing is safe or tell people to do it. but if the state is dumb enough to not fix the problem and help those that are trying to make it safer by making a track, then the hell with them.
i will try and find the clip of the news, im sure its somewhere.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 09:41 PM
like i said, i was at that one in woonsocket a few years back where the kid ended up being killed. i had the rekless decals on my car and wasnt ticketed or pulled over when they asked us to leave. and i dont think having rekless racing on my car draws any added attention to my car.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (JonT @ May 12 2010, 10:41 PM)

sorry to tell you, but im sure you already know if you been doing this that long. its already been done. 401Motion already did it. even made the news... that was YEARS ago, and nothing has happened. im not going to say street racing is safe or tell people to do it. but if the state is dumb enough to not fix the problem and help those that are trying to make it safer by making a track, then the hell with them.
i will try and find the clip of the news, im sure its somewhere.
its a problem in every state. only a handful, if any by my recollection, have done nething about it. its not up to the state to provide a safe place for people to do something that is illegal in public. you cant drink in public, you get arrested if you do. the government doesnt provide you a bar or area for you to go, private ownership does. how is this any different? the only thing the government provides you is the jail and 3 square meals a day when you fuck up and break the laws that they set. is it fair? no, not necessarily. is it reality? absolutely.
JonT
May 12 2010, 09:51 PM
JonT
May 12 2010, 09:52 PM
QUOTE (J Kellz @ May 12 2010, 10:44 PM)

its a problem in every state. only a handful, if any by my recollection, have done nething about it. its not up to the state to provide a safe place for people to do something that is illegal in public. you cant drink in public, you get arrested if you do. the government doesnt provide you a bar or area for you to go, private ownership does. how is this any different? the only thing the government provides you is the jail and 3 square meals a day when you fuck up and break the laws that they set. is it fair? no, not necessarily. is it reality? absolutely.
i think its more of an issue with zoning restrictions. no town wants a race track.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 09:56 PM
QUOTE (JonT @ May 12 2010, 10:52 PM)

i think its more of an issue with zoning restrictions. no town wants a race track.
i agree with that 100 percent. but its not up to the government. NH doesnt own NED. and CT doesnt own Limerock. MA doesnt own seekonk speedway. you wont see it happen around here. you have a better chance down south or out west.
JonT
May 12 2010, 09:59 PM
QUOTE (J Kellz @ May 12 2010, 10:56 PM)

i agree with that 100 percent. but its not up to the government. NH doesnt own NED. and CT doesnt own Limerock. MA doesnt own seekonk speedway. you wont see it happen around here. you have a better chance down south or out west.
what they need to do is do events. close down a strip of road. allow racing, even get a police car to race or something. something has to be done. not sure what, and no one with the money would ever spend it on a track of aany sort (unless it involves dogs). i think most people would be happy if the govenor/mayor atleast addressed the problem
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (JonT @ May 12 2010, 10:59 PM)

what they need to do is do events. close down a strip of road. allow racing, even get a police car to race or something. something has to be done. not sure what, and no one with the money would ever spend it on a track of aany sort (unless it involves dogs). i think most people would be happy if the govenor/mayor atleast addressed the problem
maybe do something like worcester with the summer nationals. they allow racing thru the tunnel i believe on the thurs and fri nights. they SHOULD have taken some of the area in the 195 rerouting project and built a strip along the water. not many people live in that area, its central to the highway and the hospital (ironic i know), and all that area is technically zoned as a business district so racing wouldnt affect the area on fri or sat nights.
PSquare75
May 12 2010, 10:08 PM
QUOTE (J Kellz @ May 12 2010, 11:04 PM)

maybe do something like worcester with the summer nationals. they allow racing thru the tunnel i believe on the thurs and fri nights.
False.
They tried it one year, and it was only a side by side burnout with a launch, not racing by any means.
J Kellz
May 12 2010, 10:10 PM
QUOTE (PSquare75 @ May 12 2010, 11:08 PM)

False.
They tried it one year, and it was only a side by side burnout with a launch, not racing by any means.
idk if you are correct on this sir.
http://www.summernationals.com/09dragracing.html
JonT
May 12 2010, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (PSquare75 @ May 12 2010, 09:49 PM)

oh god.... i read them. sounds like the Dubbers are going to try and convenience them.... umm... not sure?
Mr.Srtee
May 12 2010, 10:28 PM
Street Racing has been around since the 50's. I am sure most of our fathers did it and some of our fathers fathers were apart of it. From Tuners to Rat Rods it's all been done before. They showed 3 maybe 4 hondas for what they said was 15min. If they called that organized then those racers should consider that a compliment. I will gladly drive 2hrs to Epping N.H. but only because R.I. continues to prevent people from building a legal track, that would bring entertainment, safety and most import to the bureaucrats of R.I. Revenue.There are thousands of us in this state that love motor-sports, watch the traffic report every morning about accidents clogging up 95/146 connector and thurbers ave. curve.. On the phone, txting, eating donuts and drinking coffee. I drive it everyday and see it all the time. I feel safer racing than I do Going to work.
+1 Erin Kennedy
JonT
May 12 2010, 10:39 PM
QUOTE (Mr.Srtee @ May 12 2010, 11:28 PM)

Street Racing has been around since the 50's. I am sure most of our fathers did it and some of our fathers fathers were apart of it. From Tuners to Rat Rods it's all been done before. They showed 3 maybe 4 hondas for what they said was 15min. If they called that organized then those racers should consider that a compliment. I will gladly drive 2hrs to Epping N.H. but only because R.I. continues to prevent people from building a legal track, that would bring entertainment, safety and most import to the bureaucrats of R.I. Revenue.There are thousands of us in this state that love motor-sports, watch the traffic report every morning about accidents clogging up 95/146 connector and thurbers ave. curve.. On the phone, txting, eating donuts and drinking coffee. I drive it everyday and see it all the time. I feel safer racing than I do Going to work.
+1 Erin Kennedy

i feel safer speeding than i do sitting behind some slow shmuck. i feel more in control and less likely to have a conflict with aggressive driving (weather its me getting mad or someone else) because they wont keep up.
and that thurbers curve... fun ass turn

and i would much rather drive the 20-30 minutes to go race rahter than 3 to how ever many hours to go to a track to get maybe 3 runs in. just not cost/time effective.
the amount of money you spend getting to that track for a year, you could probably pay off a drag racing ticket, and thats IF you get caught.
AaronGT
May 12 2010, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (BOTTLEDZ28 @ May 12 2010, 08:57 PM)

This will never get anywhere. This same subject has been brought up for years and years. I have even signed petitions in the past and all have been shut down. They say they dont want a track because of the noise, because of the traffic and because of the cost. Another argument is the fact that there are two track within a few hours of us. You cant expect there to be a drag strip every 50 miles to please everyone in this country. Trust me, Id love to have one right here but its just not gonna happen. Im not trying to be negitive here but I have seen this same topic come up numerous times in the past.
They basically tell us to go to the track or suffer the punishments if you get caught on the street. Plain and simple.
well the least they could do is let us run with supervision on an abandoned road. like airport road in fall river. its long and straight and it looks like its in good condition. if they dont wanna allow tracks to be built within an affordable distance then they need to help us out a little bit. and driving up to epping is a hike. especially if you break anything. everyone i know thats 40 and up used to race in front of cops on these roads. if theres no traffic at all whats the big deal.
PSquare75
May 12 2010, 11:08 PM
The same reason we could play out in the yard after dark and wait for the schoolbus alone and now you need supervision. Same reason a cop used to pour your beer out and send you home, now they bag you . The times are different.
Nrw
May 13 2010, 12:39 AM
QUOTE (J Kellz @ May 12 2010, 11:10 PM)

they have that up every year. And it hasn't happened.
BOTTLEDZ28
May 13 2010, 06:28 AM
Insurance liability comes into play when you allow these little events on public roads. God forbid someone gets killed on the street at one of these events. The family would drag the town/city all through the courts. Its just not worth the hassle for the towns/cities if something does wrong. So, to eliminate all this they just say NO
Papa
May 13 2010, 06:36 AM
Anyone have the full length coverage of the story on channel 12?
LSRengineering
May 13 2010, 07:47 AM
I agree with Brad. I think I';ve signed 100 of these petitions for a track and nothing will come of it. The majority of people in mass want nothing to do with a track or one near their home. Look at all the hoops the roundy round track they just built had to go through ESP. the sound patrol.
There was 235897234696209754 talks about worc. airport being used but thats NEVER gonna happen.
LSRengineering
May 13 2010, 07:52 AM
QUOTE (J Kellz @ May 12 2010, 11:10 PM)

They havent had that in YEARS
QUOTE (Nrw @ May 13 2010, 01:39 AM)

they have that up every year. And it hasn't happened.
It has happened before...
JonT
May 13 2010, 08:03 AM
nothing is going to happen. even if there is a track, you're still going to get those people that meet at a red light and want to see whose faster.
PSquare75
May 13 2010, 08:35 AM
QUOTE (84TA406 @ May 13 2010, 08:52 AM)

They havent had that in YEARS
It has happened before...

that hardly constitutes "Drag racing" IMO, more like "lets launch side by side". They couldn't even get enough cars interested in it to do it.
Jayface
May 13 2010, 10:40 AM
As far as what everyone said, I'll be the one typing up the proper grammatical petition and I guarantee it will be a massive list at that. It won't consist of only clubs, racers, and enthusiasts alike, it will consist of home owners and as many people as I can get. Opening a track STATISTICALLY saves lives and lowers crime. I realize it's not a cheap job, but imagine seeing in the newspaper "state will allow RI/MA/CT to have a race track." Do you understand how many companies will want to get their foot in that door? The car world may be hidden, secretive, and underground to most of you, but the money that pours into such a thing is astronomical. Car parts, gas, tires, whatever it may be is pure money. I already know two or three business owners that would spend the money in a heartbeat to be apart of it - one being a friend of mine that owns the Speedway and Grand Prix in Seekonk amongst TONS of other things. His love for racing and pure enjoyment of all makes and models is what has brought him to build the speedway.
Regardless to all that, I appreciate all of you [well, most of you] being mature about this. I feel it will actually keep our streets safer - not completely safe and race free, but with a place to race, hang, and fuck around without consequence sure is going to help - and give law enforcement to do something more productive than nailing kids with stupid tickets with any bullshit law they can think of and let us do what we love in a safe environment. I planned blueprints and everything for a track that would be a dream of mine to have built, but alas I'm not made of money and I did this about three years ago in college for a project. Imagine a brand new track with vendors open along the side selling everything you need from OEM parts to shit you can only get over seas. It'd be a racers dream.
I'm not saying everyone should jump on this if you're hearts not in it, but we could all use the support. Nelson and CJ, Kevin and I greatly appreciate the support as well as the rest of the world of Rekless. J Kellz, you surprised the shit out of me. If you wanted to make up, I'm real easy. Just get me a milkshake at Coldstone and a cheap hotel. As for the rest of you, keep the support pumping. We've called the news broadcasters so many times, they turned a line off last night.
This is a movement. All support is needed and appreciated.
Jayface
May 13 2010, 10:47 AM
And the reason no petition on the past has worked because it was an idea that wasn't carried through. They thought it would be SUPER-DEEEEE-DUPPER! to start a petition so all the ricers can go burn out somewhere and flip off cops. This is the real deal. It will be pushed and sent everywhere. Not some of this 401MOTION bullshit where it was just a shit talking forum that was supposed to "support" a cause. In reality, have someone look at that forum and ask what they think. "THAT'S what they want us to support? Fuck that."
We're not asking for a miracle or demanding it be built, we're suggestion it's good idea to keep illegal racing off the streets and mothers, fathers, grandparents, kids, infants, and any other forum of human safe from worrying about kids that aggressively drive. Will it still happen? Absolutely. Will it go down in occurrences? Absolutely. It's going to be a dick to get built, but when it does, I feel strongly it's a good idea for everyone at that point.
bmrabb
May 13 2010, 11:13 AM
I think all of this is a good and positive approach at a "solution" for this... but ultimately, there's still going to be plenty of people who see it as, "Nice, we have a track... but the streets don't cost me money." Obviously, they're only free if you don't get caught or hurt... but the people already doing it probably don't worry about that anyways.
DJ420
May 13 2010, 11:17 AM
I think its a positive move in the right direction.. it may work, it may not. Its worth a try though. Keep it positive and professional.
PSquare75
May 13 2010, 11:24 AM
QUOTE (Jayface @ May 13 2010, 11:40 AM)

As for the rest of you, keep the support pumping. We've called the news broadcasters so many times, they turned a line off last night.
This is a movement. All support is needed and appreciated.
Making them turn the line off one night is a drop in the bucket. Get them to do it for a month.
Jayface
May 13 2010, 11:28 AM
I think it's a good, positive approach. It shows maturity and everyone looking for a common goal that makes sense. Whether or not it works is completely up to the state but you have MA, RI, and CT that are all worth shots. If we have a strong enough argument, which I believe we do, we may turn some light bulbs on in heads. It may not happen while we're young, but who knows what impact it may take later on. Look at the news and forums. Every night you have kids all over the nation dying in car accidents because they have no where else to fuck around. Whether or not, companies sell aftermarket power-making products. You don't want it on a track? Fine. Expect to see it on your street. Just like the news story, there is no way someone in a Mercedes is street racing against Hondas on Broad - even with those SUPER SEX AMG wheels. They were watching and caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. It sucks it happens, but if nothing is done, expect that statistic to keep rising.
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