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MARK
ill race whatever. dont really care if i win or lose.
LSRengineering
330' and I use my pocketbike
jcat
QUOTE (84TA406 @ May 25 2010, 11:16 PM) *
this is the only time you'll see me say it but LT1 POWAH!!




i dont know what to say....so much win and so much fail all at once.
LSRengineering
I know right? I have faith in the car but i hate LT1's... damn it!!
Terrence
QUOTE (PontiacBrad @ May 25 2010, 10:12 PM) *
Ok, I have a solution. My car weighs 4,000 pounds, I will race the Crown Vic.



yours is way newer still not far
Terrence
QUOTE (MARK @ May 25 2010, 10:19 PM) *
ill race whatever. dont really care if i win or lose.


but you never talk about when you lose.
Stangman_NB
too bad I don't still have the Corsica...although I am willing to run the Beretta against you Mark biggrin.gif
MARK
QUOTE (Stangman_NB @ May 26 2010, 12:46 AM) *
too bad I don't still have the Corsica...although I am willing to run the Beretta against you Mark biggrin.gif


sounds good chief.
Orinackra
QUOTE (Terrence @ May 25 2010, 11:59 PM) *
yours is way newer still not far

how about mine. Its way older (98) and it probably isnt much lighter than Brads.
monytorris
Ok Mark, I'll race you. I even have a horrible tune! wink.gif
PSquare75
QUOTE (MARK @ May 26 2010, 02:23 AM) *
sounds good chief.


i've driven both. Win goes to GA, IMO.
gina
He tries to say he'd beat me all the time.
The Onion
were you driving the jeep? lol
MARK
ginas just cranky cuz she drives a slow 5.0.
PSquare75
Am I the only one here that doesn't think it's fair to count a 150K+ mile stock 5.0 with a leaky exhaust and more rattles than a baby nursery.. to "every 5.0 on the planet."
MARK
we had the same mods minus the gt40 intake.
Hyland33
QUOTE (MARK @ May 26 2010, 04:13 PM) *
we had the same mods minus the gt40 intake.


Well the gt40 intake adds like 134823471093horsepower to the wheels yo
MARK
haha. it must. at that point, i think its a drivers race.
PSquare75


Stocky cam? Stocky pullies, I'll give you shorty headers.. that leaked at the head pipes. Mufflers that were so rotted the exhaust passed through the case? The stock clutch that slipped 'a little'? Add in 150K miles of questionable maintenance... Oh yes.. all super performance mods lol.gif.

Not saying Gina's car is any prize, it's stitched together from so many other cars it's a FrankenMustang and has had more engines than some people here have had cars.

If were going to play the whole "Mustangs suck! LS1s rule!". Sure. a stock 5.0 puts what, 205 at the crank, on a good day. An LS1 is a 'new' design. 345? It's not a fair comparison IMO. What did a 1993 305 equipped Camaro do for power? popcorn2.gif
monytorris
1993 305 camaro does not exist, first year of the lt1 in the camaro and the v6 was the 3.4.


and for the record I had a 5.0 fox body make me look stupid on the highway last week. dunno.gif
The Onion
oh boy here we go again lol


Turbo SS
QUOTE (monytorris @ May 26 2010, 04:50 PM) *
1993 305 camaro did not exist.

beat me to it. 3.4 V6, 3.8 V6 and 5.7L V8 in 3 different power options
BoostedDakota
QUOTE (The Onion @ May 25 2010, 08:56 PM) *
the biggest motor in the grand am was a 3400

i thought so
MARK
someone has studied ginas car a little too well. oh well. this isnt a gm vs ford thread. though we can still talk about the 2v 4.6 and the 3400.

nelson, lemme know when you run the beretta.

as for the 93 camaros, the engine options were a 3.4, and the lt1. first year for the lt1 in general was 92 in the corvette. the 3.8 was first put in 4th gens in 95.
PSquare75
The thing the 93 Mustang and the 93 Camaro have in common is, I don't care about either of them smile.gif. you kids are missing the point. ANY car that has 150K will be crap, if it has lousy maintenance.
MARK
QUOTE (PSquare75 @ May 26 2010, 09:50 PM) *
The thing the 93 Mustang and the 93 Camaro have in common is, I don't care about either of them smile.gif. you kids are missing the point. ANY car that has 150K will be crap, if it has lousy maintenance.


my current car has 125k on it and runs pisser. :shrug:
jcat
QUOTE (MARK @ May 26 2010, 10:02 PM) *
my current car has 125k on it and runs pisser. :shrug:



bet it wouldnt dyno to factory HP numbers. guaranteed.
MARK
QUOTE (jcat @ May 26 2010, 10:24 PM) *
bet it wouldnt dyno to factory HP numbers. guaranteed.


who knows. maybe it would. car runs damn strong.
jcat
QUOTE (MARK @ May 26 2010, 10:27 PM) *
who knows. maybe it would. car runs damn strong.



eh, lotta cars above 100k without absolutely PERFECT maintenance, especially more than a few years old lose power, just a fact of engines. It'd prob be close, but I bet whether it's a 302 or a 3400 or a 281 2v, even a brand new engine that hasn't been properly broken in won't make full power.
Orinackra
mine has 156k, and I guarantee it would dyno more than stock numbers. tongue.gif

I dunno, I think I just want to race someone really bad
monytorris
QUOTE (Orinackra @ May 26 2010, 10:32 PM) *
mine has 156k, and I guarantee it would dyno more than stock numbers. tongue.gif

I dunno, I think I just want to race someone really bad



My car has 51,000 and it better run better than stock numbers!


I just want to race somebody too, I don't even care if I lose!
Terrence
QUOTE (Orinackra @ May 26 2010, 08:18 AM) *
how about mine. Its way older (98) and it probably isnt much lighter than Brads.



ok i think that would be far. granted yours still has the power adder which gives you the upper hand smile.gif
D. Snuts
QUOTE (Orinackra @ May 26 2010, 10:32 PM) *
mine has 156k, and I guarantee it would dyno more than stock numbers. tongue.gif

I dunno, I think I just want to race someone really bad

I'm ready when you are! I'll even keep the baby carraige in the trunk!! lol.gif
Terrence
QUOTE (monytorris @ May 26 2010, 03:50 PM) *
1993 305 camaro does not exist, first year of the lt1 in the camaro and the v6 was the 3.4.


and for the record I had a 5.0 fox body make me look stupid on the highway last week. dunno.gif



i think he meant 1992? last year of the mullet mobiles..... everyone know chevy changed their body style the yr b4 ford changed their body style
PSquare75
Aye. That wasn't the point. I'm going to stop posting in the hopes this thread dies smile.gif Maybe Mark will post he beat a dump truck next.

MARK
dump truck????
Orinackra
QUOTE (MARK @ May 27 2010, 12:25 PM) *
dump truck????

you're getting ideas arent ya? lol.gif


Hey Mark (other Mark, Southbridge) I'll be right there! If we race for pinks, do I get to keep the baby seat too? tongue.gif lmao.gif
MARK
QUOTE (Orinackra @ May 27 2010, 03:55 PM) *
you're getting ideas arent ya? lol.gif


Hey Mark (other Mark, Southbridge) I'll be right there! If we race for pinks, do I get to keep the baby seat too? tongue.gif lmao.gif


you should race big brads grand prix.
Junior
he wont hes afraid of new england
MARK
id be afraid of brads car personally. lol.
The Onion
QUOTE (MARK @ May 27 2010, 04:27 PM) *
id be afraid of brads car personally. lol.



if its still got the heaton I wouldnt be too worried





LOL
Orinackra
QUOTE (Junior @ May 27 2010, 04:13 PM) *
he wont hes afraid of new england

No, I'm afraid of your cut springs. I'd race Brad's GP. Dont know what his mods are, but I dont care.
D. Snuts
I'd race Brad! Then I have something to shoot for with performance! I'll take on Drunkie too!!
The Onion
QUOTE (Southbridge06GT @ May 27 2010, 08:36 PM) *
I'd race Brad! Then I have something to shoot for with performance! I'll take on Drunkie too!!



swap out the heaton for something more efficient. IMO.
MARK
nothing wrong with the m90. or the m62. theyve been around for years.
MARK
3800's with blowers have been since the early 90s and the 3.8s have been around even longer than that. they were obviously doing something right. the 3.8/3800 is one of the strongest motors ever produced.

see here....
The Onion
QUOTE (MARK @ May 27 2010, 09:30 PM) *
3800's with blowers have been since the early 90s and the 3.8s have been around even longer than that. they were obviously doing something right. the 3.8/3800 is one of the strongest motors ever produced.

see here....



OK first off do your research before trying to school me. That video isnt even a 3.8 its a big block twin turbo. How do I know? Because Ive watched that car grow for years. I had a GN look a like and there was a local guy who made videos every year and my car was in one of them(Nelson Febus who lives in CT)

Second off...if you knew anything about the M90 or M62 youd know that they have a horrible problem with heat. This isnt some ass wipe theory Ive developed because if you recall I have owned a M62 powered car(the redline)

Yes they make power but IMO its not worth it after a certain level...especially with the M90's on the GPs. From the factory they arent equipped with a H/E like the IRL/CSS's were and even adding one again isnt worth it with the availability of blower upgrades.


So my opinion still stands with I wouldnt be scared if it still has the heaton on it. Yes they can be quick with the eatons but IMO(in my opinion....afterall in the U.S. we can have those right now) anything with a heaton on it cant be fast....and yes that also goes for the Terminator cobra's also(which is why everyone ditches the M112 heaton for a KB/Whipple/Turbo setup.
D. Snuts
QUOTE (The Onion @ May 27 2010, 09:43 PM) *
OK first off do your research before trying to school me. That video isnt even a 3.8 its a big block twin turbo. How do I know? Because Ive watched that car grow for years. I had a GN look a like and there was a local guy who made videos every year and my car was in one of them(Nelson Febus who lives in CT)

Second off...if you knew anything about the M90 or M62 youd know that they have a horrible problem with heat. This isnt some ass wipe theory Ive developed because if you recall I have owned a M62 powered car(the redline)

Yes they make power but IMO its not worth it after a certain level...especially with the M90's on the GPs. From the factory they arent equipped with a H/E like the IRL/CSS's were and even adding one again isnt worth it with the availability of blower upgrades.


So my opinion still stands with I wouldnt be scared if it still has the heaton on it. Yes they can be quick with the eatons but IMO(in my opinion....afterall in the U.S. we can have those right now) anything with a heaton on it cant be fast....and yes that also goes for the Terminator cobra's also(which is why everyone ditches the M112 heaton for a KB/Whipple/Turbo setup.

So what do you suggest?
MARK
QUOTE (The Onion @ May 27 2010, 09:43 PM) *
OK first off do your research before trying to school me. That video isnt even a 3.8 its a big block twin turbo. How do I know? Because Ive watched that car grow for years. I had a GN look a like and there was a local guy who made videos every year and my car was in one of them(Nelson Febus who lives in CT)

Second off...if you knew anything about the M90 or M62 youd know that they have a horrible problem with heat. This isnt some ass wipe theory Ive developed because if you recall I have owned a M62 powered car(the redline)

Yes they make power but IMO its not worth it after a certain level...especially with the M90's on the GPs. From the factory they arent equipped with a H/E like the IRL/CSS's were and even adding one again isnt worth it with the availability of blower upgrades.


So my opinion still stands with I wouldnt be scared if it still has the heaton on it. Yes they can be quick with the eatons but IMO(in my opinion....afterall in the U.S. we can have those right now) anything with a heaton on it cant be fast....and yes that also goes for the Terminator cobra's also(which is why everyone ditches the M112 heaton for a KB/Whipple/Turbo setup.



thats your opinion. you can still make ridiculous power with eatons. there is also a way to control the temp on them too.

and no, that g/n is not a bbc car. ive seen it when i was in arizona. its a 3.8. the school i went to out there has his original 3.8 in a display case. care to try again?
The Onion
Well the GP market is a shit ton bigger than the SS/IRL market. And the IRL guys have the TVS for an upgrade. I mean if you arent trying to make gobs of power with the car then the M90 is great. Smaller pulley, cam, headers and a tune really wake up those GTP's.


For gobs of power Ive seen guys throw whipples on the car and make insane power....or turbo if youre feeling ballsy lol

Dont get me wrong I want a GTP in the worst way.
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