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JonT
not sure if you people are for or against wheelies...

but any way, im able to do power wheelies no problem and ride them out for a bit. i can also do stoppies, although i wish i could get the stainless steel braided brake lines.

now im looking to move up to the clutch wheelies...

i have read a lot online and have tried and tried and tried to do it. but i still cant figure it out.
here is what im doing (actually two ways i been trying):
1. i will accelerate, pull in the clutch with one finger (while still accelerating) and letting the clutch go. and it just jumps. like im not revving up hi enough, but i think i am.
2. i will accelerate, slow down like i would a power wheelie, and pull in the clutch with one finger, rev it up, and let go of the clutch. same thing.

when i rev it up, i rev it up a few thousand RPMs... im not expecting it to actually jump up, but i am expecting the front wheel to lift a little.

it doesnt really bog down, it just jerks...
am i doing something wrong? am i letting the clutch out too fast? too slow? am i not revving high enough? should i be pulling back on the clip ons?


any input?

and i dont know if this affects anything, but im also sitting down (towards the back of the seat)... should i try standing up?
jcat
sitting down leans your weight forward, and you're probably reacting to popping the clutch by leaning forward a bit.


i have no idea about riding bikes, but i'd imagine you have to time your clutch pop with a quick pull up on the handle bars.


Wheelies are all about leverage.
D. Snuts
More rpms! That's what I was always being told when I tried. I scared myself and flipped the bike a few times. But with more practice I know I would have nailed them every time!
jcat
here's a thought-


power wheelie, clutch is already engaged.

clutch wheelie- could it be slipping?
bmrabb
Boooo I can only power wheelie tooo sad.gif
JonT
i think you are supposed to slip the clutch with a power wheelie.... or not? i dont know


and im not going with more RPMS.... worst comes to worst i will just change the teeth on my sprockets.
JonT
well i figured that if i use 2 fingers instead of 1 i can get it up. but i only got it up a few inches.... but i did almost flip it with a power wheelie. although that was one hell of a rush; i loved it
Junior
If the next thread you post is saying you ate shit and are in the hospital for a month I'm going to laugh
J Kellz
QUOTE (Junior @ May 26 2010, 01:05 PM) *
If the next thread you post is saying you ate shit and are in the hospital for a month I'm going to laugh


junior, shut up. i hope your cut springs come loose and you drive into a tree. if thats your next post, ill laugh.
Chewy
what gear and rpm's are you trying it in?
540s10
not sure what your bike is, but I'll assume your trying to do this in 2nd or 3rd gear just about any bike can get it up in 2nd and 3rd without weight transfer assistance from the rider, your gonna want to get the bike at the beginning of its power band, and simultaneously pull the clutch in as you roll the throttle on. You want to pull the clutch just enough to get the rpms to jump and then smoothly ride the clutch out while applying more throttle. Watch some wheelie videos on youtube and listen to the motors, you basicly want to replicate the sound. The key to this is smooth, any sudden inputs will make it extremely hard to impossible.
JonT
QUOTE (Chewy @ May 26 2010, 07:47 PM) *
what gear and rpm's are you trying it in?


but my RPMs range... but most of the time im in 2nd gear trying it at 5500-6000 rpms. im guess that is too high because when i got it to come up a little bit it was already around 9-10k. but i will still try it in higher gears just to try and get the feel of it and to see if it comes up

and yea i figured i was releasing the clutch too fast. so i still need to work on it.

Sully
im still trying to learn the wheelie thing on a pedal bike.... i know its off topic, but I just cant seem to get it right. ATVs. Snowmobiles, motorcycles.... yeah I can do those, but the pedal bike is my nemisis.

As for clutch wheelies.... never even tried. Power wheelies worked for me, and I was happy there
wantahertzdonut
QUOTE (Sully @ May 27 2010, 10:32 AM) *
im still trying to learn the wheelie thing on a pedal bike.... i know its off topic, but I just cant seem to get it right. ATVs. Snowmobiles, motorcycles.... yeah I can do those, but the pedal bike is my nemisis.

As for clutch wheelies.... never even tried. Power wheelies worked for me, and I was happy there


For your bicycle, what type of bike are you riding? I've done wheelies on everything from BMX to road bikes. My next goal is a wheelie on a tandem.

Doing it takes a lot of leg strength, but it's a bit of gearing, body position, and upper body coordination.

JonT- Please tell me you're not doing wheelies in traffic!
Sully
QUOTE (wantahertzdonut @ May 27 2010, 12:18 PM) *
For your bicycle, what type of bike are you riding? I've done wheelies on everything from BMX to road bikes. My next goal is a wheelie on a tandem.

Doing it takes a lot of leg strength, but it's a bit of gearing, body position, and upper body coordination.

JonT- Please tell me you're not doing wheelies in traffic!



mt bike..... i can get the wheel up, just not enough to get to the balance point. Not really actively trying though. I have other toys I can wheelie so I kinda moved on.
wantahertzdonut
QUOTE (Sully @ May 27 2010, 01:11 PM) *
mt bike..... i can get the wheel up, just not enough to get to the balance point. Not really actively trying though. I have other toys I can wheelie so I kinda moved on.


Ahh, mountain bikes are very easy. Basically go one gear in the back higher than what you need to just pedal the front wheel off the ground. You have to pull up HARD as you're putting a strong downstroke into the pedal, and it'll come right up. After that the balance point is up to you. Very easy if you start from a near stop as well, and accelerate as the front comes up. Any cross wind will knock you over to the side since the wheels have a significant amount of drag.
Chewy
your probably to to far foward, being a 6 with close to stock gearing you might need to bring the rpms up alittle, and try to stay relaxed, i found it so much more easier to do stand up's on my 900, in 2cd from almost a dead stop.
Chewy
QUOTE (Sully @ May 27 2010, 01:11 PM) *
mt bike..... i can get the wheel up, just not enough to get to the balance point. Not really actively trying though. I have other toys I can wheelie so I kinda moved on.

mtb's are where it's at, i can wheelie, manuel, and even manuel with both feet off for quite a distance. Nothing like seeing kids faces when i show them up at the skate parks
JonT
QUOTE (wantahertzdonut @ May 27 2010, 12:18 PM) *
For your bicycle, what type of bike are you riding? I've done wheelies on everything from BMX to road bikes. My next goal is a wheelie on a tandem.

Doing it takes a lot of leg strength, but it's a bit of gearing, body position, and upper body coordination.

JonT- Please tell me you're not doing wheelies in traffic!


my power wheelies sometimes on public streets but never in heavy traffic or anything like that. but mostly just on my road. its a private road i just practice on. i really dont know any private parking lots or anything with enough room to practice


as far as on bicycle... i was really good at BMXing. still have my bike, but it has no more brakes and the tires are pretty flat. but its fun to show off to the kids in my neighborhood.


wantahertzdonut
QUOTE (JonT @ May 27 2010, 08:24 PM) *
my power wheelies sometimes on public streets but never in heavy traffic or anything like that. but mostly just on my road. its a private road i just practice on. i really dont know any private parking lots or anything with enough room to practice


as far as on bicycle... i was really good at BMXing. still have my bike, but it has no more brakes and the tires are pretty flat. but its fun to show off to the kids in my neighborhood.


All I'll say is please please please be careful. Two of my friends killed themselves doing wheelies on the road, so I cringe every time I see an elevated front wheel on the streets and highways.
StayinStock
Well damn!!
My dirt bike, all I do is crack it open.
I just go by the way the bike feels .Once the wheel starts up,I just ease the throttle open and whoop....it comes up.
I ride the tank to keep the wheel down and just slide back on the seat a little when I want to bring it up.
Of course my bike isn't a 500lb beast.
But i would think getting the feel of the bike is the key to making it work.
Spoolin
Not that I am any expert at this but I find that my 600 needs to be revved to hell for sit down 2nd gear clutch wheelies. As in like 10,000+rpms. Usually at 30mph. I always found myself leaning forward after the wheel came up just from the natural fear of falling backwards. I've gotten it up well a handful of times but stopped trying and have not tried for a long time because I know it will eventually bite me in the ass if I get too cocky.
Power wheelies in 1st gear were always easier but they seem a little dangerous at how quick the front comes up. Then again I would take my chances with falling off a bike doing a 15mph 1st gear wheelie opposed to a 30+mph 2nd gear clutch up. The best advice would be to not do them at all but if you must, always remember to keep your foot over that rear brake because that will be the only thing to save your ass if you are about to go over backwards. Good luck and be safe.
ryceslayer
you may also want to look into different front and rear sprockets. smaller in the rear will help it come up faster. It will lower your top MPH and raise your regular riding RPM's at the MPH you are used to. i pretty much only do power wheelies. i have done 2nd gear clutch wheelies, but you have to really get the R's up to do it!! good luck!
wantahertzdonut
QUOTE (ryceslayer @ Aug 14 2010, 08:05 PM) *
you may also want to look into different front and rear sprockets. smaller in the rear will help it come up faster. It will lower your top MPH and raise your regular riding RPM's at the MPH you are used to. i pretty much only do power wheelies. i have done 2nd gear clutch wheelies, but you have to really get the R's up to do it!! good luck!


I think you mean larger rear sprocket, or smaller front sprocket.
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