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A Maryland judge issued an $85 fine to the owner of a Pontiac G8 GT for illegal tail lights, despite being factory-installed and approved by the US Department of Transportation. She's promised to keep fining him. Judicial activism, FTL!

Forum member "jackalope" at G8Board.com was ticketed by a Maryland officer who claimed he was sporting illegal tail lights. After amassing a healthy amount of evidence proving he hadn't modified his car and it was approved for sale by the Department of Transportation, he went to court confident the ticket would be dismissed, only to find the contrary. We'll let him tell you how it all went down:

Went to court for my clear tail lights on my car and was found guilty!
The judge actualy told me she didn't care what the manufacturer said, what the federal govt said, what the DOT # stamped onto my taillights said if the officer says my lights aren't legal then they're not legal. I took the G8 sales brochure in along with pics of my car and other G8 GT's and the VIN trace by 3 different dealers saying my lights were factory none of it mattered she found me guilty of failing to display or reflect red light on the rear of the car. Didn't matter the reflecters were in the bumper, didn't matter where the light is has that little red circle, the whole lens isn't red so they're not legal. Also where the back-up and turn signals are should be the reflectors according to the cop so the V6 cars lights aren't legal either.
Judge stupid went on to tell me that maybe I should consider trading in or selling the car since its not legal in MD and that I'm going to continue to get the $60 tickets till I get rid of the car.
So I contacted Pontiac's 1-800 # and I have an apt next friday to have my car looked at by them and see if they can help or at least repay me the $85.50 fine and court costs.
I honestly don't know what else I can do. The cop was ALL smiles afterwards and winked at me! WTF! Now I'm screwed! How do I go to work now? I drive right thru where he works!! So this ass nuget can make up **** randomly for any car he gets a hard on for and nothing can be done to fight it!
This is BS.

The problem centers around the clear lens tail lights and bumper-mounted reflectors of the Pontiac G8 GT model. Because the red area in the lenses is reduced in the G8 GT, there are reflectors mounted in the bumper to reflect additional light and bring the reflective requirements into spec. Th officer and by extension the judge considered them illegal.

Now, we can understand Mr. Jackalope's momentary lack of respect for the legal system above — this is B.S., but he's got legitimate cause to be pissed. He bought a car he assumed to fall within the operations laws of all states and which was in reality approved for nationwide sale by the government. According to the Judge, the opinion of an Officer of the Law supersedes what the Federal government approved for sale and the design somehow doesn't jive with what the State of Maryland considers legal.

One of the other forum members has offered up legal service to fight the fine, but it makes us wonder if all the G8 GT drivers in Maryland now have something to worry about. Should motorists who've bought a car approved by the Federal government be worried about being arbitrarily fined by a Judge who seems to side with the opinion of an officer over the law.
Orinackra
seriously? Stuff like this makes me physically ill.
J Kellz
fuck that. id just tint the tails and be done with it
LSRengineering
If theyre DOT approved then the judge is a MORON.

Fed. govt. supersedes any small town, on the high horse judge.
J Kellz
QUOTE (84TA406 @ Jul 17 2010, 11:52 AM) *
If theyre DOT approved then the judge is a MORON.

Fed. govt. supersedes any small town, on the high horse judge.


he can just keep appealing it. then get it overturned. sue for the money lost from the fine and time taken out of work. then if he continues to keep getting pulled over after the fact, start suing the police department and the city that this happened in. this guy could technically make bank
Orinackra
definitely Kellz. I dont know if its like this everywhere, but here in Pittsburgh if you lose a case in a smaller district court, you can appeal to the city court. At the very least you'd get a different judge... one who hopefully doesnt have his head as far up his ass as the other one.
05sonic3valve
i would, from here, higher a lawyer, bring this to supreme court, also sue the state of MD for wasting my time, and also present this issue to GM, because hey, if GM were to say, threaten to pull out sales from MD because their vehicles are apparently illegal in the state of MD, how much revenue and jobs do you think would be lost in the state of MD???


this country is so fucking ass backwards on 99% of the stuff that goes on.
540s10
letter to your congressman = disbarred judge and money refunded
Marc Letourneau
Hm A member off G8board too.. This will make a huge story across the boards.
Marc Letourneau
http://www.nemotorsport.com/boards/showthr...8996&page=2
WOOO!
MARK
That's absolutely insane. What the fuck is wrong with some people?
Marc Letourneau
About? The response? Or the article?
LS6rally
yah i saw this the other day on Cobaltss.net. He was a former member on there. his SN is Jackalope.
MARK
QUOTE (Marc Letourneau @ Jul 20 2010, 06:17 PM) *
About? The response? Or the article?


The article.
Marc Letourneau
Yeah its stupid. It will get thrown out like the rest of them.
The Onion
QUOTE (LS6rally @ Jul 20 2010, 07:19 PM) *
yah i saw this the other day on Cobaltss.net. He was a former member on there. his SN is Jackalope.



I remember Jackalope! thats fucked up
Marc Letourneau
I think this happened because the car went so fast the cop had a hard time seeing the red inside.
Hyland33
My generation Mazda 3 doesnt even have a reflector in the taillight that faces back
Marc Letourneau
QUOTE (Hyland33 @ Jul 20 2010, 08:21 PM) *
My generation Mazda 3 doesnt even have a reflector in the taillight that faces back


I know this, I had so much trouble yesterday over the tail lights in your car.. facepalm2.gif
Hyland33
What did you need?
Marc Letourneau
Tail light for an 2006, But because of the production date it was a different style light... And of course Keystone didn't have the correct one.
LSRengineering
I heard he had a set of tinted tails on and swapped the stockers back on...
Marc Letourneau
QUOTE (84TA406 @ Jul 20 2010, 08:31 PM) *
I heard he had a set of tinted tails on and swapped the stockers back on...


He did the right thing then.
LSRengineering
Yeah but he put the stockers on after and claimed the story.
Marc Letourneau
QUOTE (84TA406 @ Jul 20 2010, 08:34 PM) *
Yeah but he put the stockers on after and claimed the story.


I bet he will get out of it.
LSRengineering
Maybe you dont see what I'm getting at?

He had tinted tails on which are illegal in MD. After he got the ticket he put the stockers back on and claimed to have been innocent the whole time making the police look bad when in reality he was making it all up.
J Kellz
hahahaha
Marc Letourneau
QUOTE (84TA406 @ Jul 20 2010, 08:37 PM) *
Maybe you dont see what I'm getting at?

He had tinted tails on which are illegal in MD. After he got the ticket he put the stockers back on and claimed to have been innocent the whole time making the police look bad when in reality he was making it all up.



Oh I thought you meant something totally different. Well I guess it would have been fine, But he should have kept it on the downlow.
PSquare75
I was more interested in this

http://jalopnik.com/367806/new-pontiac-g8-...sweet+ass-twist

Marc Letourneau
QUOTE (PSquare75 @ Jul 20 2010, 09:08 PM) *


That's very cool.
Hippy
after the goverment take over of gm obama gave the order to put illigal tail lights on g8's to generate income for obama care. true story , possibly
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