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shadyninja
I used to run mobil1 because I thought it was a very good oil, and it is readily available.

I used Mobil 1 "extended performance" 5w30 in my 2000 mustang


but my 05 Mustang takes 5W20 , and the "extended performance"
has been impossible to find .

so I just bought the regular 5w20.(running it since day one)
I change my oil about every 2500 miles

until one day I was bored so I decided to to cut open a old oil filter.

I was shocked!
here is what I found.



excuse the fram, its all they had at the walmart, (thats why I don't buy oil or filters there any more)


so a buddy turned me on to Amsoil.
I signed up as a "preferred customer"($10 for 6 months,) which nets you a 20-25% discount
anyway I was so pleased with my new Amsoil products, (6 qts for the stang and 4 for my ninja.)I decided to become a dealer.


now with my bike....
I was running Mobil 1 mxt4 which costs like $9.75 at autozone which was suppose to be the best oil out there, and if you seen me ride my bike, you know I need a good oil burnout.gif

now after switching to Amsoil
the trans doesn't get hung up like it used to.it has 40,000 miles on it and it never shifted better,

Just thought Id share my mobil1 story with you guys.
LSRengineering
So what did you find? Looks like the oil did its job, along with the filter..?
shadyninja
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 16 2008, 04:31 PM) *
So what did you find? Looks like the oil did its job, along with the filter..?

a bunch of sludge....
that oil had 750 miles when I drained it to switch.
LSRengineering
Maybe the motor was dirty? Looks like the oil did its job to me..
shadyninja
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 16 2008, 04:40 PM) *
Maybe the motor was dirty? Looks like the oil did its job to me..

exactly, it was a new car (its a 05) and it had mobil 1 since it had about 1750 miles on it...
and had used m1 every oil change. so how would you get build up like that?

I liked the "gold cap" extended performance but its almost non existent in 5 w 20
LSRengineering
You posted it was a 2000 mustang, i figured in 8 years it could get dirty.
StayinStock
I use Mobil1 5w20 in my fusion.
It has a cartridge filter and it's never looked like that.
shadyninja
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 16 2008, 04:48 PM) *
You posted it was a 2000 mustang, i figured in 8 years it could get dirty.

o im sorry , I have 2,
I have a y2k and a 05

Orinackra
I run Mobil 1 in my GTP, I dunno, I'll report back after 3k... I'll cut the filter open, but it seems like its doing a good job so far.
shadyninja
QUOTE (Darth Orinackra @ Nov 16 2008, 05:29 PM) *
I run Mobil 1 in my GTP, I dunno, I'll report back after 3k... I'll cut the filter open, but it seems like its doing a good job so far.

in about a week Ill change the oil on the y2k, Illl cut open its filter, but It is using a different oil than the new car was using....
Swin
I always used Mobile 1 in the Lightning, never had a problem.
shadyninja
QUOTE (Emperor Swin @ Nov 16 2008, 05:32 PM) *
I always used Mobile 1 in the Lightning, never had a problem.

what weight?

I never had issues with the 30 but Im not going to use the 20 wt any more
Orinackra
I'm using 30W if that makes a difference.


Just out of curiosity, what did your oil look like, never mind the filter?
The Onion
I use the 30w also in my RL...and I have a cartridge filter and its never sludged up..Ive been using Mobil 1 or RP ever since the car was made...M1 came in my beast
shadyninja
QUOTE (Darth Orinackra @ Nov 16 2008, 05:37 PM) *
I'm using 30W if that makes a difference.


Just out of curiosity, what did your oil look like, never mind the filter?

it looked the same as the oil that is running down the side of the filter housing in the photo...
it was still "clearish"
but wasnt in the car for 1000 miles even
ccwrx
I ahvent used it yet on my gixxer ,but it works real good in the harleys ,alot of our customers have switched to the amsoil in their bikes, just dont know bout the sportbikes yet might try it next season. So if any of the Rekless members want to try the Amsoil we got it at the shop!!!
Nrw
I thought on your site in the link you sent me it said you cut the filter after you ran the amsoil thru it?



clicky
Chewy
QUOTE (ccwrx @ Nov 16 2008, 06:57 PM) *
I ahvent used it yet on my gixxer ,but it works real good in the harleys ,alot of our customers have switched to the amsoil in their bikes, just dont know bout the sportbikes yet might try it next season. So if any of the Rekless members want to try the Amsoil we got it at the shop!!!



About time a local shop has amsoil. I've been wanting to run it but can never find it local.
ccwrx
We have had it for about 6 months now, sorry didnt know you were looking for it,lol but now you know.LOL
Chewy
QUOTE (ccwrx @ Nov 16 2008, 07:08 PM) *
We have had it for about 6 months now, sorry didnt know you were looking for it,lol but now you know.LOL



how's the price's?
ccwrx
lil pricey , but we will take care of you
StayinStock
QUOTE (Nrw @ Nov 16 2008, 06:01 PM) *
I thought on your site in the link you sent me it said you cut the filter after you ran the amsoil thru it?



clicky


Ummm.
What?
I'm not doubting the claims,Amsoil is a good product,but people see these tests all the time from all brands.
It would help to be consistent.
If it is true,more analysis might suggest that it is an additive that does not dilute in Amsoil,which is why most people recommend a flush when changing brands.
Either way,Mobil is tried and true.
DieselDBag
its all the same stuff.... buy the cheap oil and change it every 2k....... seen it done for years now..... just my $.02
dosmoney
can you get me some good amsoil prices?
My84Z
So basicly you sell amsoil so as a typical salemen your talking down other brands to sell your own... Do you think everyone is stupid? I wouldn't trust overpriced oil that your suppose to change at 7000 miles+
shadyninja
QUOTE (Nrw @ Nov 16 2008, 06:01 PM) *
I thought on your site in the link you sent me it said you cut the filter after you ran the amsoil thru it?
clicky


yes the amsoil has a lot more detergent in it than other oils,(it has to in order for it to last the 25,000 that it does) hence why it cleaned up all the crud the M1 left behind, I guess I should of used the flush like some one else stated here.
I wasn't going to link drop a link to my forum here,but since you did, feel free to view the thread


QUOTE (ccwrx @ Nov 16 2008, 06:08 PM) *
We have had it for about 6 months now, sorry didnt know you were looking for it,lol but now you know.LOL



QUOTE (zx12rider @ Nov 16 2008, 06:04 PM) *
About time a local shop has amsoil. I've been wanting to run it but can never find it local.
you will love it
get some from ccwrx!

if you decide you like it and would like to buy it at dealer cost, pm me I can help out with that

BOTTLEDZ28
QUOTE (My84Z @ Nov 16 2008, 08:44 PM) *
So basicly you sell amsoil so as a typical salemen your talking down other brands to sell your own... Do you think everyone is stupid? I wouldn't trust overpriced oil that your suppose to change at 7000 miles+




x2000000!!!!. I use different oil all the time. Same weight but different manufacturers brand. I use to use Mobil 1 all the time but then I got smart and stopped paying top dollar for oil thats just the same as the next oil on the shelf.
shadyninja
QUOTE (My84Z @ Nov 16 2008, 07:44 PM) *
I wouldn't trust overpriced oil that your suppose to change at 7000 miles+

what you think a oil cant last over 7000 miles?

mobil one makes a oil good for 15000 miles,
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorO...erformance.aspx

they could make it hold up even longer, but then it would cost more
and people might not be as willing to pay extra for a better product.


compare the service life

SERVICE LIFE
AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for extended drain intervals in unmodified(1), mechanically sound(2) gasoline fueled vehicles as follows:

• Normal Service(3) – Up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.

• Severe Service(4) – Up to 15,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.

• Replace AMSOIL Ea oil filter at the time of oil change up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first (other brands at standard OEM* intervals).

________________________________________________________________________________
_________
You've never seen an oil like this before. Mobil 1 Extended Performance is a high-endurance motor oil designed for longer service intervals. It is a fully synthetic formulation that helps extend engine life, reduce oil breakdown and minimize engine wear -- all while helping to keep your engine clean. Improvements that add up to exceptional protection for 15,000 miles. Guaranteed.



My84Z
I wouldn't use any extended life stuff i will stick to 3000 miles per change and use a synthetic oil wich all are about the same and using a fram filter is hilarious because they are the worst rated filter out there and mobil is one of the top......
shadyninja
QUOTE (My84Z @ Nov 16 2008, 08:14 PM) *
using a fram filter is hilarious because they are the worst rated filter out there and mobil is one of the top......

so true
I now buy filters made out of synthetic meida over the old cellulose type




LS6rally
i run the mobil 1 5W30 Ext. perf and i love it i have a cartridge filetr in my car ad its great. hoow about a price on Amsoil 20W50?
Nrw
QUOTE (shadyninja @ Nov 16 2008, 08:52 PM) *
yes the amsoil has a lot more detergent in it than other oils,(it has to in order for it to last the 25,000 that it does) hence why it cleaned up all the crud the M1 left behind, I guess I should of used the flush like some one else stated here.
I wasn't going to link drop a link to my forum here,but since you did, feel free to view the thread


Ok so basically you cleaned your engine and said omgz m1 did a shitty job. Now what if feel is either a) the filters that have been used in the past did a bad job at filtering the oil, or cool.gif you'd probally get the same results even if you used amsoil since day one. The way I see it is use a good quality filter change it regularly and it will be fine. I found it shocking, since your now a amsoil dealer, that you put a fram filter on your car. Farm is complete junk and I would never even let it go on my car even if it was being used while i was doing a engine cleaning.

And another thing NEVER go by what the oil manu says about it's lifetime. Sure it's a decent guideline but I wouldn't say that the exact time rating. To get the correct oil life send your oil out to be tested. You may be shocked to find out that your 3k mile interval oil still has enough life to go another 7k miles. I've seen cases where people have sent out their used m1 that has had 5k miles on it and get the lab reports back saying it still has another 10k miles left in it. Oil life has too many variables that go in it to say that oh the oil jug says change every 3k, just an example, so it has to be done by then.

And just to finish it off. Amsoil is good oil. But m1 is also very good oil itself. I understand your a dealer and everything now but I'm sorry m1 isn't as bad as your trying to make it out to be.
shadyninja
QUOTE (Nrw @ Nov 16 2008, 08:48 PM) *
OK so basically you cleaned your engine and said omgz m1 did a shitty job.


yeah I didn't order any Amsoil filters when I first bought the oil ( before I was a dealer)
so I threw on the only filter I could find at my local walmart, all the motorcrafts were sold out so it was the extended fram or the tech 2000 or something like that
which are probably not very different,
but when I started selling it I bought a few filters that fit my car, being I know a lot of people with the same car, so thats why the fram had the short life,
none the less I'm happy with my new filters, Ill probably change the oil in the 05 before it goes in to winter storage, Ill look at the filter that is on there now.
o and it cost like $21 to have your oil sent to the lab , postage included
if I were bored I could send a sample of the old Mobil 1 sitting in my garage waiting for my buddy to come pick up
and a sample of used Amsoil to the lab , but I'm not spending 40 bucks just to make a thread

each to their own,
but if any one has been to
http://bobistheoilguy.com/

there is a lot of info there
PSquare75
#1. Isn't even Regular mobil 1 synth good for 12K miles or one year.

#2. Personally I'm more worried about zinc content, the new oils have practically NONE.... flat tappet cams ftw.
fordfanatic
QUOTE (shadyninja @ Nov 16 2008, 05:12 PM) *
I used to run mobil1 because I thought it was a very good oil, and it is readily available.

I used Mobil 1 "extended performance" 5w30 in my 2000 mustang


but my 05 Mustang takes 5W20 , and the "extended performance"
has been impossible to find .

so I just bought the regular 5w20.(running it since day one)
I change my oil about every 2500 miles

until one day I was bored so I decided to to cut open a old oil filter.

I was shocked!
here is what I found.



excuse the fram, its all they had at the walmart, (thats why I don't buy oil or filters there any more)


so a buddy turned me on to Amsoil.
I signed up as a "preferred customer"($10 for 6 months,) which nets you a 20-25% discount
anyway I was so pleased with my new Amsoil products, (6 qts for the stang and 4 for my ninja.)I decided to become a dealer.


now with my bike....
I was running Mobil 1 mxt4 which costs like $9.75 at autozone which was suppose to be the best oil out there, and if you seen me ride my bike, you know I need a good oil burnout.gif

now after switching to Amsoil
the trans doesn't get hung up like it used to.it has 40,000 miles on it and it never shifted better,

Just thought Id share my mobil1 story with you guys.







you used a piece of shit fram filter, did you expect better? lol
MARK
in every decent car ive owned, ive always used mobil 1. never had any problems with it. the camaro, regal, and the mk8 will get it too.
StayinStock
I wouldn't trust any oil for more than 5,000
Not because of the oil,but because of the contamination from the engine.
Oil itself can last for a very long time with filtration that removes all contamination,but automotive filters only remove particles.
The particles it can't remove can still collect and become sludge.
The chemical contamination can only be removed with expensive and elaborate filtration.
BlkLT1Z28
First of all about your old oil "looking" dirty......its a Ford, of course its gonna be nasty like that. smile.gif


On a serious note, were you sure it was M1 synthetic? I see a lot of people buying that extended clean 5k, 7k, 15k etc....but its not Mobil 1's full synthetic. I put Mobil 1 in my Z28 after 125k miles and when the motor came apart at 150k it was very VERY clean.

I also run M1 in my R6's and after 20k miles the bike still runs, shifts, rides perfect and that includes about 5k track miles at Jennings. My bike has been run hard, its entire life with zero problems.

I have seen M1 go through more shit then a lot of oils and it has held up well. We run it in all of our Challenge cars and other race cars at work and those cars are getting beat on all the time.


Either way, change your oil, cheap, expensive whatever. If its clean then it will work.

LSRengineering
I change my oil practically every other week, I just buy whats on sale lol.

The link neil provided you stated that the amsoil cleaned your motor and said hey look ay the filter and the thread on here says hey look at all the dirty in the filter from the mobil one. Just kinda confussing to me. Looks like both oils are doing their jobs.

I typically use Castrol GTX, and this is what the inside of my motor looks like... Stock bottom end from 1974...
BryanH
M1 oil is known to be quite a bit thinner than other oils of similar grade. Though I don't think you're in bad shape if you use M1. I don't know if I'd want to run it on a car for racing though. I'd probably opt for the 0w40 stuff for racing, though it's expensive. I'd think most of you guys would be fine on M1. I like that you can get 5w30 or 10w30 at Walmart in the 5 quart jugs.

I use Castrol Synthetic 0w30.. the stuff that is imported from Germany on my Camaro.

I think the whole oil change interval thing depends on different factors. For BMW's supposedly they are changing oil every 7500 miles at minimum and most seem to go every 10k miles. Probably something I don't plan on doing if I get one. But BMW also takes 7 quarts. Oil capacity might have an effect on that. It also doesn't help that my LS1 engine when stock likes to shoot oil through the PCV hose into the intake, which you can't blame on the oil type. I'm guessing some engines just work better than others
BryanH
I should have mentioned I was talking about the 3 series for the BMW engine
LS6rally
i run Valvoline VR1 20W50 in my nova
MeanMachine
i been using the mobil1 5w 30 EP, havent had any issues yet
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