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Nick?
good to kno
LSRengineering
2 of the biggest ones please.. maybe I wont spool off idle lol
Ronin
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 12:17 AM) *
2 of the biggest ones please.. maybe I wont spool off idle lol

Bigger isnt always better.
LSRengineering
For those junkyard turbos, I would need the biggest ones on the list to 1.) not spool at idle and 2.) now become a restriction.
LS6rally
nice find paul
Hyland33
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 01:43 PM) *
For those junkyard turbos, I would need the biggest ones on the list to 1.) not spool at idle and 2.) now become a restriction.


Diesel Truck?
LSRengineering
Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?
Nrw
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM) *
Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?



doesnt turbo mike have two diesle turbos off a john deer tractor?
Hyland33
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM) *
Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?


I'm pretty sure Ronnie has a turbo from a diesel on his DSM
BoostedDakota
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM) *
Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?

they will work but not well concidering diesels only rev to 3-4000 tops compared to a gas engine that revs 8000 or whatever. diesel turbos make big boost but wont last spinnin hi r's
Hyland33
QUOTE (BoostedDakota @ Nov 28 2008, 08:28 PM) *
they will work but not well concidering diesels only rev to 3-4000 tops compared to a gas engine that revs 8000 or whatever. diesel turbos make big boost but wont last spinnin hi r's


I was thinking the same thing
LSRengineering
QUOTE (Nrw @ Nov 28 2008, 08:21 PM) *
doesnt turbo mike have two diesle turbos off a john deer tractor?


Yeah but tractor turbos would work a bit diffrent. And its questionable how well it works lol

QUOTE (BoostedDakota @ Nov 28 2008, 08:28 PM) *
they will work but not well concidering diesels only rev to 3-4000 tops compared to a gas engine that revs 8000 or whatever. diesel turbos make big boost but wont last spinnin hi r's


Thats what I was thinking. But like neil said turbo mike does have 2 john deere turbos on his stang.
BoostedDakota
well they will work but i bet if he put 2 small garretts on there it would be a whole different monster
LSRengineering
Well on a stock 302, stock internals etc. he makes like 540hp lol ran high 10's too.
BoostedDakota
no shit!!! cant complain there

is that the orange stang on here
LSRengineering
Nope thats Cal, hes got a TT stang too. basically the same setup except some real turbos.
BoostedDakota
whats the other guy have
LSRengineering
Cal has I think a pair of garrets or turbonetics turbos.

Turbo mike has a pair of john deere tractor turbos.

I think both use a stock block/internals and a GT40 explorer intake.
BoostedDakota
no i mean what year stang is mikes?
LSRengineering
Its a red fox notch..

Heres a video.. http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/Dud...nt=50583179.flv
BoostedDakota
ohhh i member that car
custom rides
wow
Ronin
No such thing as a "diesel turbo" or "gasoline turbo".

Blowthrough carb? Low boost? No IC?
Im guessing, without looking into any maps, that 2 turbos from a GN would prolly be too big for your setup...
LSRengineering
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 29 2008, 03:48 AM) *
No such thing as a "diesel turbo" or "gasoline turbo".

Blowthrough carb? Low boost? No IC?
Im guessing, without looking into any maps, that 2 turbos from a GN would prolly be too big for your setup...



I didnt mean it as a one for specific gas and one for specific diesel. I just meant one off a diesel truck. The turbo doesnt really care what its on however I dont see a turbo meant for a diesel wanting to pull to 7000rpm's.

Without looking at maps I would say 2 GN turbos would be about right to be honest. 406ci sbc, heads thats flow ~285cfm on the intake ports and well above 220cfm on the exhaust ports. Not to mention I already have a boost specific cam. I wouldnt think theyre too big.
Hyland33
how about a veyron turbo..haha i see those all the time
PSquare75
Ah yes the red mustang with the John Deere Turbos. He pulled up along side of me at al ight the day after he blew his engine at the summer nats and looked over as if nothing was wrong with thick blue smoke coming from his exhaust piped under the hood.

I looked away. lol.gif
LSRengineering
Yup he went through another motor this years. Somehow the same motor lasted last summer and up until the nationals this year.
LSRengineering
So if theyre off a 7.3 would that mean powering a 6.6 gas engine would only need one? My powerband is from 2800-7000ish
BoostedDakota
personally, i wouldnt but thats me
BoostedDakota
why are you looking for a turbo? i can get you a 76mm with a small exhaust side which would spool quick or a 88mm
LSRengineering
QUOTE (BoostedDakota @ Nov 29 2008, 11:26 AM) *
why are you looking for a turbo? i can get you a 76mm with a small exhaust side which would spool quick or a 88mm


Yeah but I dont want to pay like 1000+ for a turbo... I'm jewish...

QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 29 2008, 11:28 AM) *
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...ech_center.html
theres a TON of information on that link read all the tutorials you will learn a lot,.


Ive read that stuff a long time ago. I guess I'll hafta read it again. Thanks Joe.
B26P38
I'm thinking of doing a quad turbo for the Marauder taking VW 1.8 turbos going into a set of Garrett T67's to eleminate lag. Just do not know if I want just the 1.8 turbos plumbed or all 4 plumbed off the exhaust though.
Ronin
QUOTE (IG-88 @ Nov 29 2008, 06:09 PM) *
I'm thinking of doing a quad turbo for the Marauder taking VW 1.8 turbos going into a set of Garrett T67's to eleminate lag. Just do not know if I want just the 1.8 turbos plumbed or all 4 plumbed off the exhaust though.

WTF?

Theres nothin multiple turbos can do that a well setup single cant. Only good reason for twins is it can reduce plumbing in a cramped engine bay for V style engines. If you have room, go with a large single.
LSRengineering
There there, settle down kiddies.
Ronin
QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 30 2008, 12:48 AM) *
oh really? try making 100psi of boost with a single charger
Yea really...What? do you think doubling the turbo doubles the boost capability?
LSRengineering
No but what kinda RPM would you need to turn/how much lag to run 100psi? Ive seen a few setups with a smaller turbo feeding a much larger one and it sppoling quckly and making crazy PSI.
B26P38
Well this is why I'm thinking of doing what I've been thinking

Curb weight of vehicle 4200# and with only 281 CI of engine I want the vehicle to have instantanious boost no lag as it would kill me if I decided to hit the go pedal. I'm no Fbody or stang I weigh close to a truck and with a lack of cubes to boot. Need all the help I can get plus this is why the last gen RX7, 3000GT,and 300Z had twin turbos not to increse the power but to eliminate lag.
Ronin
QUOTE (IG-88 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:25 PM) *
Well this is why I'm thinking of doing what I've been thinking

Curb weight of vehicle 4200# and with only 281 CI of engine I want the vehicle to have instantanious boost no lag as it would kill me if I decided to hit the go pedal. I'm no Fbody or stang I weigh close to a truck and with a lack of cubes to boot. Need all the help I can get plus this is why the last gen RX7, 3000GT,and 300Z had twin turbos not to increse the power but to eliminate lag.

The 3000gt and the 300z were v6s with cramped engine bays, a large single usually isnt practical. They could tuck 1 turbo neatly under each cylinder bank and only have intercooling piping to contend with. The Rx-7 and the Supra couldnt resist the gimmick of "Twin Turbo", but if you look in the aftermarket crowd, we are using large singles. Simply cause its simpler, and performs better.

If you really cant wait the .05 seconds until boost (boost threshold) you may want to consider a blower for your car.
Ronin
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:24 AM) *
No but what kinda RPM would you need to turn/how much lag to run 100psi? Ive seen a few setups with a smaller turbo feeding a much larger one and it sppoling quckly and making crazy PSI.

Maybe your not explaining things too well or something, but I dont know what the hell your talking about.
Are you trying to describe a sequential turbo setup?
Hyland33
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:18 PM) *
Maybe your not explaining things too well or something, but I dont know what the hell your talking about.
Are you trying to describe a sequential turbo setup?


He's describing the two types of twin turbo setups...having two the same size vs having a smaller one feed a larger one to eliminate lag
Ronin
QUOTE (Hyland33 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:20 PM) *
He's describing the two types of twin turbo setups...having two the same size vs having a smaller one feed a larger one to eliminate lag

Can you show me an example where a small turbo feeds a larger turbo?
Hyland33
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:21 PM) *
Can you show me an example where a small turbo feeds a larger turbo?

Isnt that how the twin turbo Supra's and skylines work
Hyland33
Ronin
QUOTE (Hyland33 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:23 PM) *
Isnt that how the twin turbo Supra's and skylines work

No. But the Rx-7 is sequential.

The theory is, small turbo spools quicker and provides the engine boost at low RPM. At higher exhaust flow (or RPM) the secondary turbo will be activated along with the small one to sustain the boost levels to redline.

One turbo cant feed another directly...
Ronin
QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 30 2008, 03:33 PM) *
if you compound them yes you can double even triple the boost.

WTF? And this contraption works?
DieselDBag
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:37 PM) *
WTF? And this contraption works?


Worked for decades in 18wheelers. Alot of the older trucks have turbo set-ups like that.
LSRengineering
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:29 PM) *
No. But the Rx-7 is sequential.

The theory is, small turbo spools quicker and provides the engine boost at low RPM. At higher exhaust flow (or RPM) the secondary turbo will be activated along with the small one to sustain the boost levels to redline.

One turbo cant feed another directly...


Sure it can it's called compound boost. A bunch of cobra owners use a turbo to feed the S/C as well.

QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 30 2008, 03:33 PM) *
if you compound them yes you can double even triple the boost.


Yup

QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:37 PM) *
WTF? And this contraption works?


Very well actually. I'll go look for some articles about it and post em up.

QUOTE (DieselDBag @ Nov 30 2008, 03:45 PM) *
Worked for decades in 18wheelers. Alot of the older trucks have turbo set-ups like that.


+1 Rep for you! Exactly what I was going to say.
DieselDBag
Worked on my brother in laws pulling tractor also. 80psi outta the small turbo and 120psi outta the 2nd. But it was only 3800hp.....
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