PSquare75
Nov 27 2008, 11:42 PM
Nick?
Nov 28 2008, 12:06 AM
good to kno
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 12:17 AM
2 of the biggest ones please.. maybe I wont spool off idle lol
Ronin
Nov 28 2008, 11:19 AM
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 12:17 AM)

2 of the biggest ones please.. maybe I wont spool off idle lol
Bigger isnt always better.
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 01:43 PM
For those junkyard turbos, I would need the biggest ones on the list to 1.) not spool at idle and 2.) now become a restriction.
LS6rally
Nov 28 2008, 02:31 PM
nice find paul
Hyland33
Nov 28 2008, 03:30 PM
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 01:43 PM)

For those junkyard turbos, I would need the biggest ones on the list to 1.) not spool at idle and 2.) now become a restriction.
Diesel Truck?
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM
Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?
Nrw
Nov 28 2008, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM)

Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?
doesnt turbo mike have two diesle turbos off a john deer tractor?
Hyland33
Nov 28 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM)

Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?
I'm pretty sure Ronnie has a turbo from a diesel on his DSM
BoostedDakota
Nov 28 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 28 2008, 08:20 PM)

Do diesel turbos work on gasoline cars?
they will work but not well concidering diesels only rev to 3-4000 tops compared to a gas engine that revs 8000 or whatever. diesel turbos make big boost but wont last spinnin hi r's
Hyland33
Nov 28 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (BoostedDakota @ Nov 28 2008, 08:28 PM)

they will work but not well concidering diesels only rev to 3-4000 tops compared to a gas engine that revs 8000 or whatever. diesel turbos make big boost but wont last spinnin hi r's
I was thinking the same thing
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Nrw @ Nov 28 2008, 08:21 PM)

doesnt turbo mike have two diesle turbos off a john deer tractor?
Yeah but tractor turbos would work a bit diffrent. And its questionable how well it works lol
QUOTE (BoostedDakota @ Nov 28 2008, 08:28 PM)

they will work but not well concidering diesels only rev to 3-4000 tops compared to a gas engine that revs 8000 or whatever. diesel turbos make big boost but wont last spinnin hi r's
Thats what I was thinking. But like neil said turbo mike does have 2 john deere turbos on his stang.
BoostedDakota
Nov 28 2008, 08:37 PM
well they will work but i bet if he put 2 small garretts on there it would be a whole different monster
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 08:38 PM
Well on a stock 302, stock internals etc. he makes like 540hp lol ran high 10's too.
BoostedDakota
Nov 28 2008, 08:40 PM
no shit!!! cant complain there
is that the orange stang on here
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 08:52 PM
Nope thats Cal, hes got a TT stang too. basically the same setup except some real turbos.
BoostedDakota
Nov 28 2008, 08:53 PM
whats the other guy have
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 08:55 PM
Cal has I think a pair of garrets or turbonetics turbos.
Turbo mike has a pair of john deere tractor turbos.
I think both use a stock block/internals and a GT40 explorer intake.
BoostedDakota
Nov 28 2008, 08:57 PM
no i mean what year stang is mikes?
LSRengineering
Nov 28 2008, 08:59 PM
BoostedDakota
Nov 28 2008, 09:06 PM
ohhh i member that car
custom rides
Nov 29 2008, 03:45 AM
wow
Ronin
Nov 29 2008, 03:48 AM
No such thing as a "diesel turbo" or "gasoline turbo".
Blowthrough carb? Low boost? No IC?
Im guessing, without looking into any maps, that 2 turbos from a GN would prolly be too big for your setup...
LSRengineering
Nov 29 2008, 10:34 AM
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 29 2008, 03:48 AM)

No such thing as a "diesel turbo" or "gasoline turbo".
Blowthrough carb? Low boost? No IC?
Im guessing, without looking into any maps, that 2 turbos from a GN would prolly be too big for your setup...
I didnt mean it as a one for specific gas and one for specific diesel. I just meant one off a diesel truck. The turbo doesnt really care what its on however I dont see a turbo meant for a diesel wanting to pull to 7000rpm's.
Without looking at maps I would say 2 GN turbos would be about right to be honest. 406ci sbc, heads thats flow ~285cfm on the intake ports and well above 220cfm on the exhaust ports. Not to mention I already have a boost specific cam. I wouldnt think theyre too big.
Hyland33
Nov 29 2008, 10:38 AM
how about a veyron turbo..haha i see those all the time
PSquare75
Nov 29 2008, 10:42 AM
Ah yes the red mustang with the John Deere Turbos. He pulled up along side of me at al ight the day after he blew his engine at the summer nats and looked over as if nothing was wrong with thick blue smoke coming from his exhaust piped under the hood.
I looked away.
LSRengineering
Nov 29 2008, 10:49 AM
Yup he went through another motor this years. Somehow the same motor lasted last summer and up until the nationals this year.
LSRengineering
Nov 29 2008, 11:22 AM
So if theyre off a 7.3 would that mean powering a 6.6 gas engine would only need one? My powerband is from 2800-7000ish
BoostedDakota
Nov 29 2008, 11:24 AM
personally, i wouldnt but thats me
BoostedDakota
Nov 29 2008, 11:26 AM
why are you looking for a turbo? i can get you a 76mm with a small exhaust side which would spool quick or a 88mm
LSRengineering
Nov 29 2008, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (BoostedDakota @ Nov 29 2008, 11:26 AM)

why are you looking for a turbo? i can get you a 76mm with a small exhaust side which would spool quick or a 88mm
Yeah but I dont want to pay like 1000+ for a turbo... I'm jewish...
QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 29 2008, 11:28 AM)

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...ech_center.htmltheres a TON of information on that link read all the tutorials you will learn a lot,.
Ive read that stuff a long time ago. I guess I'll hafta read it again. Thanks Joe.
B26P38
Nov 29 2008, 06:09 PM
I'm thinking of doing a quad turbo for the Marauder taking VW 1.8 turbos going into a set of Garrett T67's to eleminate lag. Just do not know if I want just the 1.8 turbos plumbed or all 4 plumbed off the exhaust though.
Ronin
Nov 29 2008, 10:13 PM
QUOTE (IG-88 @ Nov 29 2008, 06:09 PM)

I'm thinking of doing a quad turbo for the Marauder taking VW 1.8 turbos going into a set of Garrett T67's to eleminate lag. Just do not know if I want just the 1.8 turbos plumbed or all 4 plumbed off the exhaust though.
WTF?
Theres nothin multiple turbos can do that a well setup single cant. Only good reason for twins is it can reduce plumbing in a cramped engine bay for V style engines. If you have room, go with a large single.
LSRengineering
Nov 30 2008, 10:15 AM
There there, settle down kiddies.
Ronin
Nov 30 2008, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 30 2008, 12:48 AM)

oh really? try making 100psi of boost with a single charger
Yea really...What? do you think doubling the turbo doubles the boost capability?
LSRengineering
Nov 30 2008, 10:24 AM
No but what kinda RPM would you need to turn/how much lag to run 100psi? Ive seen a few setups with a smaller turbo feeding a much larger one and it sppoling quckly and making crazy PSI.
B26P38
Nov 30 2008, 12:25 PM
Well this is why I'm thinking of doing what I've been thinking
Curb weight of vehicle 4200# and with only 281 CI of engine I want the vehicle to have instantanious boost no lag as it would kill me if I decided to hit the go pedal. I'm no Fbody or stang I weigh close to a truck and with a lack of cubes to boot. Need all the help I can get plus this is why the last gen RX7, 3000GT,and 300Z had twin turbos not to increse the power but to eliminate lag.
Ronin
Nov 30 2008, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (IG-88 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:25 PM)

Well this is why I'm thinking of doing what I've been thinking
Curb weight of vehicle 4200# and with only 281 CI of engine I want the vehicle to have instantanious boost no lag as it would kill me if I decided to hit the go pedal. I'm no Fbody or stang I weigh close to a truck and with a lack of cubes to boot. Need all the help I can get plus this is why the last gen RX7, 3000GT,and 300Z had twin turbos not to increse the power but to eliminate lag.
The 3000gt and the 300z were v6s with cramped engine bays, a large single usually isnt practical. They could tuck 1 turbo neatly under each cylinder bank and only have intercooling piping to contend with. The Rx-7 and the Supra couldnt resist the gimmick of "Twin Turbo", but if you look in the aftermarket crowd, we are using large singles. Simply cause its simpler, and performs better.
If you really cant wait the .05 seconds until boost (boost threshold) you may want to consider a blower for your car.
Ronin
Nov 30 2008, 03:18 PM
QUOTE (84ta406 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:24 AM)

No but what kinda RPM would you need to turn/how much lag to run 100psi? Ive seen a few setups with a smaller turbo feeding a much larger one and it sppoling quckly and making crazy PSI.
Maybe your not explaining things too well or something, but I dont know what the hell your talking about.
Are you trying to describe a sequential turbo setup?
Hyland33
Nov 30 2008, 03:20 PM
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:18 PM)

Maybe your not explaining things too well or something, but I dont know what the hell your talking about.
Are you trying to describe a sequential turbo setup?
He's describing the two types of twin turbo setups...having two the same size vs having a smaller one feed a larger one to eliminate lag
Ronin
Nov 30 2008, 03:21 PM
QUOTE (Hyland33 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:20 PM)

He's describing the two types of twin turbo setups...having two the same size vs having a smaller one feed a larger one to eliminate lag
Can you show me an example where a small turbo feeds a larger turbo?
Hyland33
Nov 30 2008, 03:23 PM
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:21 PM)

Can you show me an example where a small turbo feeds a larger turbo?
Isnt that how the twin turbo Supra's and skylines work
Hyland33
Nov 30 2008, 03:26 PM
Ronin
Nov 30 2008, 03:29 PM
QUOTE (Hyland33 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:23 PM)

Isnt that how the twin turbo Supra's and skylines work
No. But the Rx-7 is sequential.
The theory is, small turbo spools quicker and provides the engine boost at low RPM. At higher exhaust flow (or RPM) the secondary turbo will be activated along with the small one to sustain the boost levels to redline.
One turbo cant feed another directly...
Ronin
Nov 30 2008, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 30 2008, 03:33 PM)

if you compound them yes you can double even triple the boost.
WTF? And this contraption works?
DieselDBag
Nov 30 2008, 03:45 PM
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:37 PM)

WTF? And this contraption works?
Worked for decades in 18wheelers. Alot of the older trucks have turbo set-ups like that.
LSRengineering
Nov 30 2008, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:29 PM)

No. But the Rx-7 is sequential.
The theory is, small turbo spools quicker and provides the engine boost at low RPM. At higher exhaust flow (or RPM) the secondary turbo will be activated along with the small one to sustain the boost levels to redline.
One turbo cant feed another directly...
Sure it can it's called compound boost. A bunch of cobra owners use a turbo to feed the S/C as well.
QUOTE (SICKS-O @ Nov 30 2008, 03:33 PM)

if you compound them yes you can double even triple the boost.
Yup
QUOTE (Ronin @ Nov 30 2008, 03:37 PM)

WTF? And this contraption works?
Very well actually. I'll go look for some articles about it and post em up.
QUOTE (DieselDBag @ Nov 30 2008, 03:45 PM)

Worked for decades in 18wheelers. Alot of the older trucks have turbo set-ups like that.
+1 Rep for you! Exactly what I was going to say.
DieselDBag
Nov 30 2008, 05:05 PM
Worked on my brother in laws pulling tractor also. 80psi outta the small turbo and 120psi outta the 2nd. But it was only 3800hp.....
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