I gots me some o' dem HID's.. Hopefully their going in today.. That makes me



The first picture is of the truck yesterday. I had cleaned the drivers side headlight with the lens restorer. This was only one application, but I think it came out pretty good for it being a 12 year old truck.. The passengers side is obviously the way it was to start with..


The second is with the HID's. Bad pic cause I was standing in a lit garage while taking the pic.. but you get the idea.. BTW, my camera phone sucks

ooo your retro fitting some projectors in? what kind of projectors you using?

Kady did you buy a kit withthe wiring and harness? Some of those HID lights will burn the wires on the stock light harness. Im not sure which ones you got though

I'm interested which kit she got too.......I want some for the Dak

Yeah, its got the wiring harness, ballasts and bulbs.



Who the hell said anything about projectors?

I think he was hoping you had projectors. hids in sealed beam housings suck big time for people coming the other way. Its a completly different light pattern. I'm pretty sure its illegal too. but so are my windows

Woops I assumed that you were doing HID's the right way

I wanted projectors, but the guy who used to sell them on here said I can't do them with projectors.. I've always wanted them



So are my windows... but I got pull.

I've just been lucky

Wait what? I want to know his reasoning.

the guy probably said you can't do it because the ebay style projectors aren't designed to effectively put the HID's light to the road, and since you already bought your vehicle specific kit, and seeing that most OEM style projectors use a D2S or D2R bulb, he is correct in saying a retro won't work, with your kit. If you had bought the kit with bulbs matching the projectors you planned to use, it'd just be a matter of getting them in the housing.

As far as melting harnesses, I wouldn't worry being that most HID systems on the market nowadays use only 35w of draw, about half of even the lowest halogen lamp. Some are designed for 50w but even then, your average halogen (ie. 9006) runs at between 75-100w depending on the vehicle and bulb.

Definitely post pics! What color temp did you get? I've got 6000k in my headlights, planning to go 3000k hid in my fogs if i can afford if after boost hahaha

I Agree they arent the saame bulb type stock Vs. Projectors but you can get a kit that would fit projevtors.

i have 6K Hi/Lows and 3k fogs and i love them

He was ready to send me his paypal, but I told him I wanted to hold off cause I wanted different headlights and I was considering projectors.. I'm almost positive he told me I couldn't use them with it... Unless he was just telling me I couldn't use the 9006 and I just misunderstood.

I got the 1000K, Zack put them in today. I got a pic but it kinda sucks, I'll upload it later on.

Im guessing you mean 10K i couldnt imaginw what color 1000K would be. 10K is a blue with a slight purple tint.

Ok in that point yea projectors, oem ones not ebay ones, use a different bulb. Making it so you can't use the kit's 9006 or whatever bulb.

I hate my projectors, can't see shit...

OEM projectors >>>> Ebay projectors

most ebay ones are designed for a halogen bulb not a HID so essentially its no better than a HID in a halogen reflector housing.

Not necessarily. Depends who makes the projectors. The light output will vary from headlight to headlight. Same with the type of bulb.

Most projectors use different bulbs then what the stock headlights use. All you have to do is order HID's that have the right bulb for the projector headlights. If you ever go that route. Most aftermarket projector housing are not meant to run hotter then 5k HID's but you can usually run hotter without problem. Buyer Beware.

My XENTEC 10k's are a lighter blue in my headlights meanwhile the same kit in my friends car are deep blue. Like I said varies from headlight to headlight.

yeah, i meant 10k sorry. i was beat, it was a long day. but yeah, if i ever decide i want projectors, ill just get a new kit and throw the old headlight / kit in my other truck.. i wanted to do a head light and grill swap on that anyway. regardless of not having the projectors, i love them anyway. it soooo much easier to see even with my tint

And they only took Zakky ten hours to install!! Sssssahweeeetttt!

Not quite that long.. but it felt like it cause of the cold.. He didn't know about having to switch the power and ground wires... Luckily Chunky Chimp was around.. Thanks again Joey.

Pics added to first post!

they look pretty bright

Could me Brighter. :-/

regardless of who makes the projectors, any replacement headlamps using projectors on ebay, are NOT designed for use with an HID bulb. The reason being is that the cutoff has not been as precisely designed because the halogen bulbs don't scatter as much as the more powerful HIDs. Using a projector like (and kady i'd recommend these if you were planning on retro sometime down the road because they'd fit in your housing) a TSX or TL or S2000 projector, those are specifically designed to work properly with the higher output of the HID. Now for a housing that uses a bigger reflector (like my GS or other cars with huge headlights), a lot of people will use the p6 projectors from the q45 or the LS430/460 projectors which are smaller but have big surrounding shrouds to fill the gap of the OEM reflector bowl.

basically you won't see too much improvement using an HID in an ebay projector headlamp. Using halogen, yes a marginal improvement.

also, to the point of kady's comment about brightness, the golden rule of HID's and color temp:

the higher the color temp, the lower the output.

the only half-exception to this rule is the 3000k yellow kind of hid's. Technically their output is the highest, but becasue of the yellow color they can cast shadows on a lot of objects, so I would consider 4300k to be the best light output when used by themselves. When 6000k and 3000k are used in conjunction (headlight and fog for example), it looks like jesus himself is driving toward/behind you.

looks good

Me too..

And thanks jcat for a bunch of information that I'm too ADD to read

haha no problem put it this way, as far as projectors, ebay= fail, custom retro=win.

Thanks.. Too many words in that post before.

Thats only cause we were looking for projectors online so it took a lil longer. HID's look HAWTTTTT though. Very brighter...almost as bright as KD's face when they turned on

Haha. LMAO. Very true... I was a lil doubt full for a bit.. I thought my truck just didn't want to change himself for me. :-)

if anyones interested, I will be experimenting with the use of eyelids on my car to try and cut the glare from my HIDs in halogen housing. If that doesnt work, or they look like shit, I'll probably be exploring a retrofit of some kind. At which point, I'd probably do a writeup. But, if anyone wants to dive into a retro beforehand, I'd be more than willing to help out!

check out hidplanet.com if you haven't already. They have all the info you'll ever need for a retro.

my next vehicle will have hid with no damn projectors, i want to see the damn road

oh yeah, i already know how to do it, just a matter of deciding on projectors and comitting to the project haha. It's either, q45's, LS430s or LS460s, and paint the housings to match the car (could be black or white by then hah) and a matter of replacing my 9006 hid bulbs with the d2s or r bulbs that the projectors take.

well the problem with your truck is that those projectors were meant for halogens, and halogen projectors = fail. If you had swapped in say, TSX projectors (probably an easy fit since they're similar size) and run a PNP hid kit with d2s bulbs, your output would be amazing. Without projectors, trust me, your light gets so scattered and ugly, even if the car has factory HID reflector bowls, hence why all the new cars with HID come with projectors now. When used properly, with the right projector, they can be unreal. 5gen maxima projectors are amazing as well. could even be an aiming issue, projectors are super tough if they don't have autolevel.

*fixed

5.5 had reflector hid's which yea didn't glare but the light was blotchy. 6th gen up hid projectors.



projectors suck huh. here's ls460 projectors in a rx300













Eclipse with TSX

DJ420 has the hids with no Projectors and those look great to me...

who cares if there are projectors or not...i've seen plenty of cars run HIDs w/o projectors and they put out plenty of light...screw oncomming traffic

Blah Blah.........I got a HID in my street bike and NO they dont make any type of projectors for my bike. Damn I must=Fail
But I hope I get behind you guys in the summer and tell me they arent bright. I only have 1 and I line of sight is very very far. I think it the person personal choice if they want to run projectors or normal bulbs even if its wrong or right

^^ good shit Neil, haha i got confused for a minute.

i dont know what dj420 has for a car but if it's anything like my halogen reflectors the output is super bright and reaches far, but it's super scattered and with tons of glare (hence why other drivers flash me 10 times a night lol)

nah i'm not saying they're not bright, they really are (too bright because of glare sometimes). I'm sure we could find a way to retro some projectors into your bike, but honestly for a bike I'd rather have a stupid amount of glare so EVERYBODY sees you on the road, especially at night.

Dj's in both of his vehicles glare like a mother and light up the tree tops great




Everyone says that till there's a collision and the one with the HID in reflector is at fault even when staying in their own lane.



You can retro projectors into ANYTHING. Fuck I've seen someone do it to a flashlight

GSXR600 w/ TSX

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And no I won't give up on thinking pnp HID's are a waste of money and dangerous. And I won't stop with the projector talk.

haha yeah one of the vendors over on ClubLexus that sells HIDs actually built an HID flashlight that we figured out has better light output than the stock 2GS halogens hahaha


pnp hid's are dangerous, but when aimed correctly danger can be avoided, not to mention the clever use of eyelids to create a good cutoff line. But, as already stated, projectors FTW. I think personally that a bike with one giant q45 projector for a headlight would be dope.

Yea you can aim them low to hide the glare but at that point the amount of light put down isn't that great.

another way to do it is make a shield instead of an eye lid. Something like what some of the older volvo's have. Like this


Hell yea. q45 are nasty looking.

yeah, those are nice, but i'm partial to this setup that a lot of GS guys are running



^^ Q45 low beam with bmw x5 high beam

Projectors this, Projectors that... Unless someone wants to put them in my truck for me, then shut the hell up already

LMAO

illl give ya a hand. i want to do my cobalt. but im not spending the money