Awesome video! Thanks for posting

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Once again Chevy will shoot themselves in the foot because of pricing. A well equipped Maro is going to cost approximately 40k....a Mustang over 10k less.

I'm just bothered that they used the SS package for the camaro but didn't use the SRT8 and GT500 models for the competitors. Of course the Mustang GT and Challenger R/T aren't going to compete.. they are mid level vehicles whereas the SS is the top of the line until the Z28 is available. They should have used the lower model V8 trim for the Camaro if they wanted to use the GT and the R/T as competitors. Typical GM bias in the media, GM can't stand to lose so they rig these types of things to save face with the public.

that's precisely WHY they didnt go SRT8 GT 500... the Z28 isn't available.

im in love. camaro still reigns supreme!!!!!!!!!!

BUT there is a base model V8.....fair is fair.

the base v8 (L99) is rated at 400horse. i dont think itll make much different. i wouldnt buy either one of the other 2 honestly.

the d/i v6 is rated at 304. even that wouldve given the mustang a run for its money.

those srt8's are toilets imo. i drove quite a few when i worked at dodge in arizona. didnt move too well. way too heavy. id save me the money of buying one, and just get an r/t. only srt8 id ever consider, is the cherokee.

For the 10-15k difference I will take the Mustang and make it wipe the floor with the Maro.


As stated previously with a price tage like that, Chevy is already setting themselves up for failure. Maybe in a better market it would work....not in this one.

$30,995 isnt that bad.. whats the msrp on a stang?

31 is base....gon on their site and option the car out.....40k is about average once it has what you want

fine, for what id LIKE to have, itd run me $36,760.

most people are gonna be trading in cars for these. and who the fuck pays msrp these days. i pay as close to invoice as i can. if they cant work numbers, im walking. theres plenty of other dealerships. regardless, youre looking at a low 30k car. and thats well equipped.

ok. i just built a mustang. with what id LIKE to have in it.. $37,485

for the challenger... $38,680

all in all, theyre right about the same. no one is going to buy the base model.

i didnt the 2SS, GT premium, and the R/T Classic. all fully loaded. only thing i didnt add on the camaro was the shitty ground effects.

the v6 camaro still has just as much power as the mustang so well see.

guarantee that the dealerships will not be selling the Maro at sticker price right off the bat and there will be no leftovers, rebates or anything of the sort for quite a while.

for the price, performance wise... option wise, amongst other things. styling etc.

CAMARO = Best Bang for your Buck.

in YOUR opinion

Sorry but they are right you can get a decently equiped gt for 10k less then a similar SS it kills me cause I want one bad!

is there any other?

nah. in my opinion. youre right. power wise for the price, i am right.

other than that, everything else is opinion. i wouldnt turn down a mustang though. hopefully that makes you happy. lol

i think ford and doge got cheated

They should have used the 400hp version. Granted the Mustang has considerably less power, but it is much lighter as well. A couple tenths is a couple tenths in the 1/4. And lets face it.. those are the only numbers that matter in the end.

Even though the Z28 will technically be the top of the line model, it is more of a speciality package like the 392 Hemi's for the Challengers. I don't think many will be buying them nor will many be built. The SRT8's and GT500's on the other hand sell decently for what they are and book pricewise much closer to the SS than they would with the Z28. The price mark up's on all of these cars are crazy to begin with, the Z28 will be much much much much much much higher than all of them.

The Z28 will be some other kind of monster.

GM already said theres gonna be 0 dealer markups on these.

id still personally rather have the mustang

how did they get cheated?


like i said. the LS3 is rated at 42x. the L99 is rated at 400. not gonna make and big difference. test again with the L99 for all the whiners. still gonna be the same outcome. put the SS against a SRT 8 Cherokee, 300, Charger, or Challenger. Camaro would still win.

The SS with M6 weighs 3,860 lb (1,750 kg). Through the Auto, 3,913 lb (1,775 kg).

Mustang GT with the M5, weighs 3,401 lb (1,543 kg). Through the Auto, 3,454 lb (1,567 kg).

Challenger (all i could find was this off the motortrend site.) 4154 lb



there goes his theory.


once again, the camaro will destroy the mustang.

Id actually rather get the mustang.

its really all opinion in the end, I think the mustang is fucking ugly so id opt for the challenger or camaro.

Now I havent been keeping myself up to date on all this crap with the new camaro but do I have it right in saying that the Z28 ( when GM comes out with it) will be a higher optioned Fbody then the SS package? Is GM going old school again with their option packages?

in a way, yes.

i don't know about destroy, its definitely faster in a straight line but the stang handles better

stangs lighter. nothing suspension mods cant fix.

The Z28 is gunna have a roots style supercharger on it if I'm not mistaken. So it will be considerably more potent than the SS.

I thought they were going to have some RS package for these cars as well? Anyone know whats up with that?

well if your gettin into modding stuff than your opening up a whole new can of worms

RS is the v6 no?

rs it an appearance package.

rs is the v6 yea

RS Appearance Package

Yea I know its appearence but you cant get the v8 with the rs can you? I think motor trend said that in their article.

the RS is not an actually model. its an appearance package available on the 1LT, 2LT, 1SS, and 2SS.



RS Package Available to be added to Either SS or LT trim levels
- HID lamps
- Spoiler on LT Model
- 20 inch 5 spoke wheel
- Midnight silver paint finish
- Optional polished finish
- RS unique tail lamps (darkened lenses)
- Body colored roof ditch molding
- Special RS Badging

LS
Standard Equipment
- 3.6L SIDI V6 engine
- Dual exhaust
- 18-inch steel wheels
- Onstar Safe & Sound
- XM radio
- Stabilitrak
- 6 air bags: front, side and curtain
- 6-speaker base audio system

Optional Equipment
- Floor mats

1LT
Standard Equipment (includes or replaces LS equipment)
- 18-inch aluminum Wheels
- Fog lights
- Driver information center
- Power driver seat

Optional Equipment
- Floor mats
- 19-inch aluminum wheels
- Power Sunroof
- Boston Acoustics 245watt 9-speaker premium audio
- Convenience & Connections package
- RS package

2LT
Standard Equipment (includes or replaces 1LT equipment)
- 19 inch aluminum wheels
- Leather heated seats
- Ambient lighting
- Boston Acoustics 245watt 9-speaker premium audio
- Auxiliary gauges (center console)
- Auto dimming interior and exterior mirrors
- Bluetooth and USB connections
- Remote start (automatic transmission only)
- Leather steering wheel with controls
- Rear parking assist (late availability)
- Head-up display (late availability)

Optional Equipment
- Floor mats
- 19-inch polished aluminum wheels
- Inferno orange accent interior
- Power sunroof
- Dual vinyl rally stripes in white or cyber gray
- RS package

1SS
Standard Equipment
- 6.2L V8 engine
- 20 inch aluminum wheels
- Brembo brakes including 4-piston calipers on all 4 wheels
- Engine oil cooler
- Transmission oil cooler
- Limited slip differential
- SS gauge cluster
- SS spoiler
- SS grille badge
- Leather steering wheel and shift knob
- Power driver’s seat

Optional Equipment
- Floor mats
- 20 inch polished aluminum wheels
- Power sunroof
- Boston Acoustics 245watt 9-speaker premium audio
- Convenience & Connections package
- RS package

2SS
Standard Equipment (includes or replaces 1SS equipment)
- Leather heated seats
- Ambient lighting
- Boston Acoustics 245watt 9-speaker premium audio
- Auxiliary gauges (center console)
- Auto dimming interior and exterior mirrors
- Bluetooth and USB connections
- Remote start (Automatic transmission only)
- Leather steering wheel with controls
- Rear parking assist (late availability)
- Head-up display (late availability)

Optional Equipment
- Floor mats
- 19-inch polished aluminum wheels
- Inferno orange accent interior
- Power sunroof
- Dual vinyl rally stripes in white or cyber gray
- RS package

I was hoping they were going to use the RS option as a suspension/handling upgrade. But I guess HID lamps are just as good in some weird way.

5.4 would eat any cheby motor

its gonna be the 90's again

base mode cammaros gonna be faster but fords high end mod motors gonna be king

not to mention the 5.4 comes boosted were the new chevy and dodge motors are gonna have to be reworked or face detonation issues

in the end mustang will be the last one standing like always

long live the king

Ya know, all this is nice. But really.. let's see what companies are even left in EXISTANCE after 2 years.

That there is the winning answer Bob! Give Billy his prize!!!!!!!!

I'm not one for picking loyalty fights on here but a N/A 5.4 like in the cobra R is nothing too special. Sure a boosted motor will make more power thats obvious. The base model N/A corvettes destroy the GT500 and the boosted LS9 corvette is one of the fastest USDM cars ever built.

Also the LSx series of motors dont need to be boosted to make serious power where as the mod motors N/A really dont make good #'s

only an asshole would drive a mustang

I read that in MM&FF

beg to differ. the only way mustangs have been able to beat camaros, is with a blower.

people are gonna be grabbin their nuts when the z/28 comes out.

For a daily only, I'd probably get a Challenger or a Mustang GT. For a daily/racecar I'd get a Mustang GT.

is that a fact? I think you may need to reword that.